EmptyEpsilon VS Fable: F# |> BABEL

The engine is built on FOSS: https://daid.github.io/EmptyEpsilon/

Looks like they're working off a fork of a fork: https://github.com/clockwork-dog/EmptyEpsilon/commits/main/

Thorium is great; it's closer to a virtual tabletop for starship RPGs than a standalone game, built around creating interactive narratives. That sets it apart from the more straightforward game-style bridge sims, like Artemis[1] and EmptyEpsilon[2], which have scriptable scenarios with narrative elements but have more fundamentally game-focused mechanics.

All of these get used in a lot of fun ways for live events beyond their design, too. Thorium's "family tree" comes from interactive events at planetariums, and EmptyEpsilon, being open-source with an HTTP API and game-master screen for directly manipulating live game state and pretending to be ships, became a popular front-end for European LARPs.[3]

1: https://www.artemisspaceshipbridge.com/#/

2: https://daid.github.io/EmptyEpsilon/

3: https://www.odysseuslarp.com/blog/steering-the-starship-empt...

Empty Epsilon bridge simulator: https://github.com/daid/EmptyEpsilon

The game itself is fun, but the best stuff I've seen is it being reused, modified, and adapted for LARPs and crowdplay.

Out of Orbit is a great and ongoing example, a Finnish escape room-ish experience that also has a Twitch game putting stream chat in the role of the ship's AI: https://outoforbit.fi/ and https://www.twitch.tv/outoforbitgame/about

Empty Epsilon powers the game part, with integrations using its DMX interface and HTTP API to provide hardware interfaces and things like Twitch chat commands modifying the game state.

EmptyEpsilon - a free multiplayer bridge simulator. Each ship is typically crewed by 3-6 people, but you can run multiple ships in the same game or get mods that add/change roles.

"the open source": Empty Epsilon. A little more complex of a simulation than Artemis, but feels much more limited from a mission standpoint, mostly due to lack of development from that aspect. Does away with the "Star Trek" feel of Artemis for a more industrial feeling.

If you want to look at an interesting open source C++ game project that (iirc) uses SFML, you could check out Empty Epsilon.

This conversation could be referring to https://fable.io/

Other than that, the question is indeed strange and I agree with your statements.

NOTE: For larger codebases with more history it is likely that the Program.fs file will have a lot of orchestration and logic as well. given that it is often where everything clashes and starts, for example the Fable Entrypoint is in Entry.fs and it contains a lot of code. The best you can do always is to start at the bottom of the file and work your way up. Remember: Everything at the bottom uses what has already been defined at the top so there are no circular dependencies or random functions/types at the bottom that can trip you off, everything comes from the top!

I am a big fan of going with web components + plain (build-less) javascript whenever possible, so it is not surprising that I often favor things like the Fable Compiler, where I can target my F# code directly to javascript and be as close to the native JS experience as possible, both for interop concerns and for ecosystem integration.

Fable compiler - https://fable.io/

The F# community is very friendly (these sub-communities as well), and they have plenty of good issues/opportunities to contribute OSS work to across any skill level.

Phosphor isn't hiring right now, but we expect to begin a search for FE/interface engineers over the next few month. Email [email protected] for anyone interested.

Naturally I’d recommend using a better language such as ReScript or Elm or PureScript or F#‘s Fable + Elmish, but “React” is the king right now and people perceive TypeScript as “less risky” for jobs/hiring, so here we are.

Stuff like this: https://github.com/fable-compiler/Fable/issues/1822

It just seems like an incredibly ambitious project that appears to have very little equal but is mainly worked on by a handful of people but no corporate backing. I get the feeling that if you want to use it, you'll either be the only one doing what you're doing or among just a few people. I already use F# and feel this way about the core language itself.

F# is also part of the OCaml family, has a great to-JS transpiler (https://fable.io/) and F# code can also be used in .NET projects.

I have heard many good things about https://fable.io/ Fable converts F# code to JavaScript. There are currently 407 packages available for interacting with existing JavaScript packages and frameworks.