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plandex discussion
plandex reviews and mentions
- Coconut by Meta AI – Better LLM Reasoning with Chain of Continuous Thought?
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Ask HN: In 2024, is SWE a sustainable career?
I'm working on an agent-based AI coding tool[1] that is trying to push the limits on the size/complexity of tasks that can automated by LLMs, so I think about this often. I'm also using the full gamut of AI tools for development (I have 5 subscriptions and counting).
My opinion is that skilled engineers won't be replaced for a long, long time, if ever. While AI codegen will keep getting better and better, getting the best result out of it fundamentally requires knowing what to ask for—and beyond that, understanding exactly what is generated. This is because, depending on a particular prompt, there are hundreds/thousands/millions/billions of viable paths for fulfilling it. There are no "correct answers" in a large software project. Rather there is an endlessly branching web of micro-decisions with associated tradeoffs.
I think the job of engineers will gradually shift from writing code directly to navigating this web of tradeoffs.
1 - https://plandex.ai
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I'm Tired of Fixing Customers' AI Generated Code
One thing I've found in doing a lot of coding with LLMs is that you're often better off updating the initial prompt and starting fresh rather than asking for fixes.
Having mistakes in context seems to 'contaminate' the results and you keep getting more problems even when you're specifically asking for a fix.
It does make some sense as LLMs are generally known to respond much better to positive examples than negative examples. If an LLM sees the wrong way, it can't help being influenced by it, even if your prompt says very sternly not to do it that way. So you're usually better off re-framing what you want in positive terms.
I actually built an AI coding tool to help enable the workflow of backing up and re-prompting: https://github.com/plandex-ai/plandex
- Fine-tuning now available for GPT-4o
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AI agents but they're working in big tech
> Where you specify a top-level objective, it plans out those objectives, it selects a completion metric so that it knows when to finish, and iterates/reiterates over the output until completion?
I built Plandex[1], which works roughly like this. The goal (so far) is not to take you from an initial prompt to a 100% working solution in one go, but to provide tools that help you iterate your way to a 90-95% solution. You can then fill in the gaps yourself.
I think the idea of a fully autonomous AI engineer is currently mostly hype. Making that the target is good for marketing, but in practice it leads to lots of useless tire-spinning and wasted tokens. It's not a good idea, for example, to have the LLM try to debug its own output by default. It might, on a case-by-case basis, be a good idea to feed an error back to the LLM, but just as often it will be faster for the developer to do the debugging themselves.
1 - https://plandex.ai
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Ask HN: Do you use AI for writing?
I'm working on a docs site for the AI coding tool I built [1], and I had to turn off GH Copilot for markdown files.
As massive as I find the productivity boost from AI tools for coding (> 2x for me conservatively), with current capabilities I find it's a net negative for writing prose, even technical prose.
The problem is: I like to think I'm a better writer than an LLM, but writing is hard. Every paragraph, every sentence requires a small shot of mental energy to get right. And what the LLM suggests is never bad. It's always like, "yeah, that could work." And that's the problem. It's good enough to be seductive. To make me want to skip that little bit of effort and auto-complete the sentence, auto-complete the paragraph.
But the end result when I do that is missing something. It's grammatically correct and substantively correct. It's fine. But it doesn't grab the reader and pull them through. It's text that remains text and keeps the reader at a distance.
The core problem, I guess, is the lack of a human voice. There's some kind of essential weirdness that is missing. This generally isn't a problem for code. In most cases, code that is boring and generic and anodyne and does the job it's supposed to do is good code.
It will be interesting to see how this changes as LLMs continue to progress. Is this a fundamental limitation of the technology or a minor hurdle that will be quickly overcome?
If I could write docs with AI that would genuinely pull the reader in and hold attention better than my own writing, I'd be happy to do so. It's not sentimental for me. But for now, Copilot will stay disabled for markdown files.
1 - https://github.com/plandex-ai/plandex
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We no longer use LangChain for building our AI agents
I haven't used LangChain, but my sense is that much of what it's really helping people with is stream handling and async control flow. While there are libraries that make it easier, I think doing this stuff right in Python can feel like swimming against the current given its history as a primarily synchronous, single-threaded runtime.
I built an agent-based AI coding tool in Go (https://github.com/plandex-ai/plandex) and I've been very happy with that choice. While there's much less of an ecosystem of LLM-related libraries and frameworks, Go's concurrency primitives make it straightforward to implement whatever I need, and I never have to worry about leaky or awkward abstractions.
- Plandex 1.1.0 – AI driven development in the terminal. Now multi-modal.
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Systematically Improving Your RAG
This all seems pretty sensible. Another area that would be nice to see addressed are strategies for balancing latency/cost/performance when data is frequently updated. I'm building a terminal-based AI coding tool[1] and have been thinking about how to bring RAG into the picture, as it clearly could add value, but the tradeoffs are tricky to get right.
The options, as far as I can tell, are:
- Re-embed lazily as needed at prompt-time. This should be the cheapest as it minimizes the number of embedding calls, but it's the most expensive in terms of latency.
- Re-embed eagerly after updates (perhaps with some delay and throttling to avoid rapid-fire updates). Great for latency, but can get very expensive.
- Some combination of the above two options. This seems to be what many IDE-based AI tools like GH Copilot are doing. An issue with this approach is that it's hard to ever know for sure what's updated and what isn't, and what exactly is getting added to context at any given time.
I'm leaning toward the first option (lazy on-demand embedding) and letting the user decide whether the latency cost is worth it for their task vs. just manually selecting the exact context they want to load.
1 - https://github.com/plandex-ai/plandex
- Ask HN: What's with the Gatekeeping in Open Source?
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plandex-ai/plandex is an open source project licensed under GNU Affero General Public License v3.0 which is an OSI approved license.
The primary programming language of plandex is Go.