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The sandboxing restriction is one that merits care for (or not supporting) some use cases. Tup requires declaring all outputs (but not all inputs), which can be inconvenient when a build process creates intermediate or derived files that are tedious to anticipate. [0]
[0] https://groups.google.com/g/tup-users/c/umW73zR5JKc?pli=1 . ex java creates numbered .class files for anonymous classes declared in a larger java file. In fairness, while looking, they may have relaxed some of that since I last looked with a transient flag https://github.com/gittup/tup/issues/405
Not impressed by shell incantations. What would sell such a tool to me is a feature to replace those with new and more intuitive syntax.
Holding on to how things are done in the shell is not a thing to be proud of. I think a lot of us around here stopped counting the times we got tripped by globbing, forgetting or misplacing one special character in a ${} block, or quoting.
Let those monstrosities die already. Please.
There's this tool -- https://github.com/ejholmes/walk -- that is pretty good and I liked it but dropped it for the same reasons: it leaves the heavy lifting to you and it depends on your mastery in the black arts.
Now obviously I'm not managing huge projects but nowadays https://github.com/casey/just serves me just fine for everything I need.
Not impressed by shell incantations. What would sell such a tool to me is a feature to replace those with new and more intuitive syntax.
Holding on to how things are done in the shell is not a thing to be proud of. I think a lot of us around here stopped counting the times we got tripped by globbing, forgetting or misplacing one special character in a ${} block, or quoting.
Let those monstrosities die already. Please.
There's this tool -- https://github.com/ejholmes/walk -- that is pretty good and I liked it but dropped it for the same reasons: it leaves the heavy lifting to you and it depends on your mastery in the black arts.
Now obviously I'm not managing huge projects but nowadays https://github.com/casey/just serves me just fine for everything I need.
I really like the declarative style of make, to the extent that I've been abusing it as an automation tool. Doing things like checking if a server is alive or setting up a serial port. But due to limitations like depending on mtime and issues with special characters in targets, I've switched some of my more intensive Makefiles to prolog using this: https://github.com/webstrand/robo.
When I find the time I hope to write bindings for netlink for prolog, so that I can declaratively create and configure network namespaces. Complete declarative system configuration using prolog would be a dream come true.
Did you try https://pydoit.org/, it's a build tool in similar spirit, which allows the actions to be either python-functions or external programs. Try to look past their tutorial 1, I don't know why they mixed in module_imports there, making it look a lot more complicated than what it really is.