It's time to let go, Apache Software Foundation

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  • openoffice

    Apache OpenOffice

  • > It looks like most of the recent commits are done by someone as mostly a way of learning and not for the sake of the project itself.

    > https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/d2a7b3cc90e95392...

    From that link:

    > Most of the commits here seams to be mainly white space changes to random files.

    I'm guessing is not "learning" but more of an attempt to game GitHub (e.g. rack up a lot of commits to an impressive-sounding project).

  • DesktopEditors

    An office suite that combines text, spreadsheet and presentation editors allowing to create, view and edit local documents

  • Additionally, there is https://github.com/ONLYOFFICE/DesktopEditors

    I personally find it a bit easier to use with better docx support.

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  • skywalking

    APM, Application Performance Monitoring System

  • Trying to play devil's advocate here.

    > It needs at least a stable set of users, but maintaining a set of users is essentially managing the set of people onboarding and the set of people migrating off.

    I could say that I don't care very much about how much users a piece of software has, only that it has enough information on how to use it and enough maintainers to patch any security vulnerabilities and do occasional releases with updated dependencies, as well as address any serious issues or bugs.

    For example, Apache Skywalking is an APM solution that most people haven't even heard of (in contrast to something like Sentry), yet it fits those qualities and I see few to no issues with it: https://skywalking.apache.org/

    > If you're shrinking then a competitor is providing better options, or your problem space has shifted.

    Again, as a user, I might not care that Sentry or another piece of software is better in any number of ways than Apache Skywalking. Similarly, I might not care that something like PostgreSQL is more correct or has a large market share (at least on HN) in comparison to something like MariaDB/MySQL.

    If a piece of software meets the needs of my project and won't effectively rot with time, then it's quite possibly good enough as it is, even if it's not the market leader. For my small project's APM needs Apache Skywalking is enough. For my CRUD database needs, something like MariaDB/MySQL will be okay until the time Sun burns out (or PostgreSQL if I'm feeling fancy, but even that's not one of the modern and hip solutions).

    Ergo, those better options only become relevant once they're closer to being must haves than nice to haves. Same as how Docker Swarm might be enough for many, even if Kubernetes basically won in the "container wars" and has a way more active community. Swarm will only stop being an option for me once it hits EOL, at least for certain projects where simplicity is appreciated.

    Then again, a counterpoint to my own argument here could be the story of LibreOffice and OpenOffice, where the latter was basically donated (instead of the rights to the name being given to the folks behind LibreOffice) and is now in decline while LibreOffice is flourishing - but at the same time they were so close to one another feature wise, that maybe it's not a good point, same as with Gogs and Gitea.

  • LibreOffice

    Read-only LibreOffice core repo - no pull request (use gerrit instead https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/) - don't download zip, use https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/bundles/ instead (by LibreOffice)

  • Proof: https://github.com/LibreOffice/core/graphs/contributors

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