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Amusingly their solution[1] will likely get them delisted from Google: https://developers.google.com/search/docs/essentials/spam-po...
[1] https://github.com/AsahiLinux/AsahiLinux.github.io/commit/5c...
As someone who is regularly falling victim to the rightward lurch (for having committed the dastardly crime of the wrong hormone activating in-utero), the only reason I don't actively block Hacker News readers is that I make ad money off of them. That is the only reason it's worth the abuse vector to me.
dang, if you are reading this, please take a moment to seriously consider the actions you have taken today. I understand your desire for the community that Hacker News could be, but that is so far away from what it is today that it's almost laughable. Yes, this is a no-win situation but that's bascially how it is globally when trying to be centerist about any issue. I use Hacker News referers to change the page slightly (mostly to add a deserved "hey, can you please not be an asshole, thanks" via this code: https://github.com/Xe/site/blob/686cc58fb6fc8f2e3bf0197e9b38...) and I would be very frustrated if that went away. Maybe even to the point of having a worker process figure out if my articles are posted to hacker news and making them go dark if they are on the front page. I know you value the articles I post (as our email threads have contained), but really it's an abuse vector that I need to keep metrics of.
Website administrators should be allowed to block Hacker News referers. Yes this is a thing that is not desirable for you as an administrator, but at some level something's got to give. The enshittening of Hacker News is something that is very undesirable for me too. I've gone over this in our emails. This was going to be another one of those emails, but I really would prefer this one to be out in the open.
> to be perfectly honest these people don't seem mentally well
Please don't cross into personal attack and please don't do internet psychiatric diagnosis on HN.
https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&type=comment&dateRange=a...
The conflict probably stems from the Asahi leader having caught a bad case of Wayland Derangement Syndrome[0]. This case is particularly bad because his distro aims to give Apple hardware users FREEDOM to use an open source distro. Yet he has nothing but contempt and anger for anyone that wants freedom to use Linux the way they want, they way it was intented. E.g. allowing software to control other software, rather than being sandboxed into discreet, tightly controlled "apps". God forbid, anyone should need cross-application monitoring or time-tracking.
[0] https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/110354541574112092
https://help.rescuetime.com/article/117-common-linux-issues
https://github.com/ActivityWatch/aw-watcher-window/issues/18
Most times I found out that one of my articles was on the HN frontpage was because I got a spike in traffic and news.ycombinator.com was the most common referrer; now it's "spike in traffic, maybe it's HN?" which isn't really an improvement. This applies even more to other authors who won't think "maybe it's HN?" and will never show up here as a result, which would be a loss IMO.
The Asahi people still won't be able to "soft block" HN, so nothing changes for them. It's punishing everyone because some people threw a hissy fit.
Lobsters has a "compromise approach", where it sends referrers for the first hour after posting and then stops sending them [1] (not sure if it really helps to "disincentivize content marketers" as the comment says; they generally don't seem to care as long as they can spam out their links), but that may be a more complex change to make. This is how I discovered that Lobsters exists a few years ago: somone people posted my article and I "found" it in the refers, so I asked for an invite and replied to some comments.
[1]: https://github.com/lobsters/lobsters/blob/2981689c26a1bd2461...