Migrating from Supabase

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  • drizzle-orm

    Headless TypeScript ORM with a head. Runs on Node, Bun and Deno. Lives on the Edge and yes, it's a JavaScript ORM too 😅

  • You can actually integrate both as well if you really want to leverage Drizzle for schema building and migrations: https://github.com/drizzle-team/drizzle-orm/tree/main/drizzl...

  • Logflare

    Never get surprised by a logging bill again. Centralized structured logging for Cloudflare, Vercel, Elixir and Javascript.

  • hey hn, supabase ceo here

    the Val Town team were kind enough to share this article with me before they released it. Perhaps you know from previous HN threads that we take customer feedback very seriously. Hearing feedback like this is hard. Clearly the team at Val Town wanted Supabase to be great and we didn’t meet their expectations. For me personally, that hurts. A few quick comments

    1. Modifying the database in production: I’ve published a doc on Maturity Models[0]. Hopefully this makes it clear that developers should be using Migrations once their project is live (not using the Dashboard to modify their database live). It also highlights the options for managing dev/local environments. This is just a start. We’re building Preview Databases into the native workflow so that developers don’t need to think about this.

    2. Designing for Supabase: Our goal is to make all of Postgres easy, not obligatory. I’ve added a paragraph[1] in the first page in our Docs highlighting that it’s not always a good idea to go all-in on Postgres. We’ll add examples to our docs with “traditional” approaches like Node + Supabase, Rails + Supabase, etc. There are a lot of companies using this approach already, but our docs are overly focused on “the Supabase way” of doing things. There shouldn’t be a reason to switch from Supabase to any other Postgres provider if you want “plain Postgres”.

    3. That said, we also want to continue making “all of Postgres” easy to use. We’re committed to building an amazing CLI experience. Like any tech, we’re going to need a few iterations. W’re building tooling for debugging and observability. We have index advisors coming[2]. We recently added Open Telemetry to Logflare[3] and added logging for local development[4]. We’re making platform usage incredibly clear[5]. We aim to make your database indestructible - we care about resilience as much as experience and we’ll make sure we highlight that in future product announcements.

    I’ll finish with something that I think we did well: migrating away from Supabase was easy for Val Town, because it’s just Postgres. This is one of our core principles, “everything is portable” (https://supabase.com/docs/guides/getting-started/architectur...). Portability forces us compete on experience. We aim to be the best Postgres hosting service in the world, and we’ll continue to focus on that goal even if we’re not there yet.

    [0] Maturity models: https://supabase.com/docs/guides/platform/maturity-model

    [1] Choose your comfort level: https://supabase.com/docs/guides/getting-started/architectur...

    [2] Index advisor: https://database.dev/olirice/index_advisor

    [3] Open Telemetry: https://github.com/Logflare/logflare/pull/1466

    [4] Local logging: https://supabase.com/blog/supabase-logs-self-hosted

    [5] Usage: https://twitter.com/kiwicopple/status/1658683758718124032?s=...

  • SurveyJS

    Open-Source JSON Form Builder to Create Dynamic Forms Right in Your App. With SurveyJS form UI libraries, you can build and style forms in a fully-integrated drag & drop form builder, render them in your JS app, and store form submission data in any backend, inc. PHP, ASP.NET Core, and Node.js.

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  • create-t3-app

    The best way to start a full-stack, typesafe Next.js app

  • https://github.com/t3-oss/create-t3-app hosted on Vercel + Planetscale / Railway DB is very easy, I would be surprised if you were miserable doing that.

    Mostly that solves setting up Prisma SQL ORM to your DB, but Next.js App directory with the Prisma setup (2 files / 50 LOC) done is even smoother.

  • Prisma

    Next-generation ORM for Node.js & TypeScript | PostgreSQL, MySQL, MariaDB, SQL Server, SQLite, MongoDB and CockroachDB

  • How do people on HN like Row Level Security? Is it a better way to handle multi-tenant in a cloud SaaS app vs `WHERE` clauses in SQL? Worse? Nicer in theory but less maintainable in practice?

    fwiw, Prisma has a guide on how to do RLS with it's client. While the original issue[0] remains open they have example code[1] with the client using client extensions[2]. I was going to try it out and see how it felt.

    [0]: https://github.com/prisma/prisma/issues/12735

    [1]: https://github.com/prisma/prisma-client-extensions/blob/main...

    [2]: https://www.prisma.io/docs/concepts/components/prisma-client...

  • prisma-client-extensions

    Examples of Prisma Client extensions.

  • How do people on HN like Row Level Security? Is it a better way to handle multi-tenant in a cloud SaaS app vs `WHERE` clauses in SQL? Worse? Nicer in theory but less maintainable in practice?

    fwiw, Prisma has a guide on how to do RLS with it's client. While the original issue[0] remains open they have example code[1] with the client using client extensions[2]. I was going to try it out and see how it felt.

    [0]: https://github.com/prisma/prisma/issues/12735

    [1]: https://github.com/prisma/prisma-client-extensions/blob/main...

    [2]: https://www.prisma.io/docs/concepts/components/prisma-client...

  • supabase

    The open source Firebase alternative.

  • Hi, I've recently gave supabase a shot to as an alternative to firebase because I needed SQL. One thing that I've struggled with from the start is that supabase seems to ignore backends completely.

    I don't want to use supabase edge functions, since I want to keep it simple with a single express backend and don't want to be vendor-locked.

    In firebase, the Admin SDK https://firebase.google.com/docs/admin/setup solves this, but seems to be missing in supabase. For example, for a simple JWT verification, I had to go to old github issues, rather than finding the answer in the docs. https://github.com/supabase/supabase/issues/491#issuecomment...

  • firebase-admin-node

    Firebase Admin Node.js SDK

  • Hi, I've recently gave supabase a shot to as an alternative to firebase because I needed SQL. One thing that I've struggled with from the start is that supabase seems to ignore backends completely.

    I don't want to use supabase edge functions, since I want to keep it simple with a single express backend and don't want to be vendor-locked.

    In firebase, the Admin SDK https://firebase.google.com/docs/admin/setup solves this, but seems to be missing in supabase. For example, for a simple JWT verification, I had to go to old github issues, rather than finding the answer in the docs. https://github.com/supabase/supabase/issues/491#issuecomment...

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