Why not tell people to “simply” use pyenv, poetry or anaconda

• oscclip

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  Utilities to access the clipboard via OSC52

Having encountered poetry recently for the first time, it was "simply" hell. I just wanted to use a single file python project, https://github.com/rumpelsepp/oscclip

I spent about three hours trying to figure out how to setup python keyrings to work, to let me just get started using poetry. On a system I was ssh'ed I to. Gnome-keyring-daemom was up. I spent a while adding random pam rules suggested by archwiki in to inject more gnome-daemon stuff in my envs. Random gnome-keyring-unlock scripts, which quickly start talking about Clevis and tpm and fido 2-factor. Wading through hundreds of responses about Seahorse, a gui tool unsuitable for ssh. Many long miserable sad stories.

In the end I stumbled upon someone who suggested just nulling out & turning off keyring with some config to make it have a null provider. After this the poetry project just worked.

The tiny handful of deps this project has were already installed on my system, but poetry was also a task runner, instrumental for the usage of this single-file script.

There's been so many years of churn in the python world of tools. A fractal nesting doll of virtual-env, mkvirtualenv, & various offshoots. I hope some day there is a mature reasonable option folks generally find agreeable. Poetry eventually worked for me, but what a miserable gauntlet I had to walk, and the cries of so many who'd walked the path & utterly failed echoed out at me at every step.

• windmill

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  Open-source developer platform to turn scripts into workflows and UIs. Fastest workflow engine (5x vs Airflow). Open-source alternative to Airplane and Retool.

  

For the need of windmill.dev (OSS retool + FaaS), we support deno and python. To provide that same experience that you're speaking of which is "python run myscript.py" without having to pre-install the dependencies, we wrote our own python parser in Rust which infer the PyPi packages from the imports (and then our workers download them if they are not cached). Here is the code from the parser: https://github.com/windmill-labs/windmill/blob/main/backend/... which we could carve out as a separate module.

• SurveyJS

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  Open-Source JSON Form Builder to Create Dynamic Forms Right in Your App. With SurveyJS form UI libraries, you can build and style forms in a fully-integrated drag & drop form builder, render them in your JS app, and store form submission data in any backend, inc. PHP, ASP.NET Core, and Node.js.

  

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