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zigler
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Bun v0.8.0
Bun is an executable as far as I understand. Would it be possible to call Bun code directly from another language with bindings?
For example Erlang (and Elixir) has Native Implemented Functions[0] (NIF) where you can call native code directly from Erlang. Elixir has the zigler[1] project where you can call Zig code directly from Elixir.
Maybe you can see where I'm going with this, but it would be super cool to have the ability to call Javascript code from within Elixir. Especially when it comes to code that should be called on the server and client. I'm the developer of LiveSvelte[2] where we use Node to do SSR but it's quite slow atm, and would be very cool to use Bun for something like this.
In any case Bun is super impressive, keep it up!
[0] https://www.erlang.org/doc/tutorial/nif.html
[1] https://github.com/E-xyza/zigler
[2] https://github.com/woutdp/live_svelte
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Write Elixir NIFs in Rust
There's also Zigler, that makes writing NIFs in Zig a breeze: https://github.com/E-xyza/zigler
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Elixir and Rust is a good mix
I admit for a long time this was my primary motivation to learn Rust, but, sadly, I haven't come across problems in years that were CPU bound/where I needed something like Rust... Rustler still looks like a great fit if needed, but, depending on the use case, if I were CPU bound and needed to write my own code/not just use a Rust library, I'd be as or more likely to look at using Zig and Zigler[0], for much faster learning curve, and from what I've read, easier tighter integration into elixir, including I think language server integration. Some discussion here[1] though I forget if I listened to this one or not.
[0]https://github.com/ityonemo/zigler
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A simple Erlang NIF in Zig
Thing is, zigler failed in some way for me to build this with NixOs proj and it was fun to create this from scratch.
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What's New in Elixir 1.13
With this new functionality, we can expect to see some upcoming development of custom formatters for common types of embedded code. The Zigler project already has an issue open for a custom ~Z formatter, and I hope to see some development for a ~H soon.
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Elixir v1.13 Released
That looks great, it's a pet peeve of mine that it's difficult to format languages that are encased in another language. Most (all?) editors are only expecting a single "language" in in a file. You have a js file? Must contain only JavaScript!
Unrelated to 1.13 but thanks to the release notes, I now know about Zigler; which looks really neat.
https://github.com/ityonemo/zigler
- Zigler: Zig NIFs in Elixir
- José Valim Reveals “Project Nx” (Numerical Elixir)
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Ten years without Elixir
Not an antipattern for nimble_parsec: https://github.com/ityonemo/zigler/blob/fe845a9fbbfef92da8ab...
Plus think of how much easier that pipe makes it for you to understand what is going on.
Rustler
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AI Toolkit: Give a brain to your game's NPCs, a header-only C++ library
For performance intensive tasks, you could rely on Rust NIFs, there is this great project: https://github.com/rusterlium/rustler
My last project with Elixir was using Elixir merely as an orchestrator of static binaries (developed in golang) which were talking in JSON via stdin/stdout.
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Building Apps with Tauri and Elixir
From the moment we discovered Tauri, we really felt like this was the perfect fit. The API is really solid, the configuration files are minimal and easy to understand, and the usage of Rust makes it way easier to add new functionalities and think about interesting ways of interoperating with Elixir via the Rustler library.
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Async Rust Is A Bad Language
Elixir/Rust is the new Python/C++, and Rustler makes the communicating between the 2 languages super easy: https://github.com/rusterlium/rustler
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Why elixir over Golang
Rustler is so awesome for this. Write Elixir NIFs in Rust? Yes, please!
- Is RUST a good choice for building web browsers?
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Why do you enjoy systems programming languages?
But really, I would suggest thinking about what you want to build before "how" or "with which tool" - one of the signs of a person becoming a good engineer is having an array of tools at their disposal and being able to choose a correct tool for the correct task. Rust also excels in integrating with other languages - with JS via WebAssembly (a bit of self-promotion, for example), with Elixir via Rustler, with Python via PyO3 and PyOxidizer, etc. So you absolutely can start writing a frontend app with JS, or a distributed system with Elixir, or a data processing/ML app with Python and use Rust to speed up critical parts of those. Or, in reverse, you can start with Rust & add new capabilities to whatever you're building, that being a frontend, a resilient chat interface, or an ML model.
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PasswordRs 0.1.0 released (Rust NIF for password hashing)
I created a elixir (wrapper) library to generate password hashes. Other Elixir libraries use a C NIF to generate password hashes. This libary uses a Rust NIF (using Rustler) and the Rust libraries the generate the different hashes. Additionally this library uses RustlerPrecompiled so you don't need to have a Rust compiler installed to use this library. It supports argon2, scrypt, brypt and pbkdf2.
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Elixir and Rust is a good mix
> I guess, why not use Rust entirely instead of as a FFI into Elixir or other backend language?
Because Rust brings none of the benefits of the BEAM ecosystem to the table.
I was an early Elixir adopter, not working currently as an Elixir developer, but I have deployed one of the largest Elixir applications for a private company in my country.
I know it has limits, but the language itself is only a small part of the whole.
Take ML, Jose Valim and Sean Moriarity have studied the problem, made a plan to tackle it and started solving it piece by piece [1] in a tightly integrated manner, it feels natural, as if Elixir always had those capabilities in a way that no other language does and to put the icing on the cake the community released Livebook [2] to interactively explore code and use the new tools in the simplest way possible, something that Python notebooks only dream of being capable of, after a decade of progress
That's not to say that Elixir is superior as a language, but that the ecosystem is flourishing and the community is able to extract the 100% of the benefits from the tools and create new marvellously crafted ones, that push the limits forward every time, in such a simple manner, that it looks like magic.
And going back to Rust, you can write Rust if you need speed or for whatever reason you feel it's the right tool for the job, it's totally integrated [3][4], again in a way that many other languages can only dream of, and it's in fact the reason I've learned Rust in the first place.
The opposite is not true, if you write Rust, you write Rust, and that's it. You can't take advantage of the many features the BEAM offers, OTP, hot code reloading, full inspection of running systems, distribution, scalability, fault tolerance, soft real time etc. etc. etc.
But of course if you don't see any advantage in them, it means you probably don't need them (one other option is that you still don't know you want them :] ). In that case Rust is as good as any other language, but for a backend, even though I gently despise it, Java (or Kotlin) might be a better option.
[1] https://github.com/elixir-nx/nx https://github.com/elixir-nx/axon
[2] https://livebook.dev/
[3] https://github.com/rusterlium/rustler
[4] https://dashbit.co/blog/rustler-precompiled
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It's legos all the way down
unfortunately as of the time of this writing, rustler does not support generic type intefaces so I guess this is impossible?
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When Rust Hurts
One thing that drew me to Rust was actually Elixir/Erlang calling out to it for certain specialized needs. Within Elixir/Erlang you get best of breed concurrency but exiting the BEAM to run other code is unsafe. Calling out to Rust, however, comes with great safety guarantees.
Managing concurrency outside of Rust and then calling Rust for the more focused and specialized work is a good combination IMO.
https://github.com/rusterlium/rustler
What are some alternatives?
oban - 💎 Robust job processing in Elixir, backed by modern PostgreSQL and SQLite3
gleam - ⭐️ A friendly language for building type-safe, scalable systems!
ractor - Rust actor framework
hsnif - Tool that allows to write Erlang NIF libraries in Haskell
axon - Nx-powered Neural Networks
nifty - helpful tools for when I need to create an Elixir NIF .
neural - NIF based erlang shared term storage
carbon-lang - Carbon Language's main repository: documents, design, implementation, and related tools. (NOTE: Carbon Language is experimental; see README)
live_svelte - Svelte inside Phoenix LiveView with seamless end-to-end reactivity
Akka - Build highly concurrent, distributed, and resilient message-driven applications on the JVM
regex_help - Get a computer to write regex for you. A front-end for grex (https://github.com/pemistahl/grex).
elixir-nodejs - An Elixir API for calling Node.js functions