yhtml VS aleph.js

The main reason is that they're too low-level to use directly.

They do a lot, but stop just short of being useful without something of a framework on top. I tried hard to use them directly, but found that it was untenable without sensible template interpolation, and without helpers for event binding.

Here's my shot at the smallest possible "framework" atop Web Components that make them workable (and even enjoyable) as an application developer:

https://github.com/dchester/yhtml

It's just ~10 SLOC, admittedly dense, but which make a world of difference in terms of usability. With that in place, now you can write markup in a style not too dissimilar from React or Vue, like...

    ${this.count}

I also sometimes enjoy this approach of starting from absolutely nothing.

Instead of taking the path of starting with DOM manipulation and then going to a framework as necessary, I've kept really trying to make raw web components work, but kept finding that I wanted just a little bit more.

I managed to get the more I wanted -- sensible template interpolation with event binding -- boiled down to a tag function in 481 bytes / 12 lines of (dense) source code, which I feel like is small enough that you can copy/paste it around and not feel to bad about it. It's here if anyone cares to look: https://github.com/dchester/yhtml

Check aleph if you want to use react with deno. But I'd suggest sticking with Node.js and Vite as you'll get less surprises.

Here's another thing: if you want to grow from this exact setup, use deno. It has support for import maps and don't require a bundler or a separate compilation step for typescript

https://deno.land/[email protected]/basics/import_maps

Maybe add aleph too (which is similar to nextjs)

https://alephjs.org/

Deno won't require nearly as much tooling as nodejs, but it still has tooling for the cases you need it.

There’s also https://alephjs.org, never used but pops up when you search for "deno react" so I assume is similar to nextjs.

Aleph.js is a full-stack framework in Deno, used as an alternative to Next.js. Aleph.js offers features like ES module imports, file-system routing, SSR & SSG, and HMR with a fast refresh.