workers-chat-demo VS awesome-paas

This idea was also sparked from cloudflares chat room example using something on their platform the call durable objects. But instead of offloading each chat room to a durable object I wanted to try to offload it to a process.

If you want to see a code example of a stateful serverless worker, this durable object chat demo is kinda neat: https://github.com/cloudflare/workers-chat-demo

If you wanted something where you could get pretty far without spending any money, Cloudflare Workers + Durable Objects would be an interesting path. You would have to implement some of the functionality yourself, but there are some examples.

Like this example chat app: https://github.com/cloudflare/workers-chat-demo/blob/master/... It supports private chat rooms, which is somewhat analogous to a pub sub topic.

Durable Objects[0] let you store data on the edge and provide a lot more than a key/value store. This is a primitive you could build arbitrary databases on top of.

The edge chat demo[1] is a working, scalable real-time chat service hosted entirely on the edge using Workers + Durable Objects, even featuring per-user cross-room rate limiting. As written, it can support millions of chat rooms and users, and it's about 500 lines of code.[2]

The benefit here is that it's much easier to build scalable distributed systems on Workers and Durable Objects than on other platforms. The fact that they run on the edge as close to end users as possible is just a bonus.

[0] https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-workers-durable-obje...

[1] https://edge-chat-demo.cloudflareworkers.com/

[2] https://github.com/cloudflare/workers-chat-demo/blob/master/...

(Disclosure: I'm the tech lead for Cloudflare Workers.)

Have you looked into using a serverless pub/sub model, like Cloudflare's Workers KV? The example they give is a simple IRC-like distributed chatroom (https://github.com/cloudflare/workers-chat-demo), but theoretically it may work for games too.

Player state can be stored in a decentralized key-value store that Cloudflare manages. They absorb all the DDoS and handle replication between edge nodes. You don't see any of that. https://www.cloudflare.com/products/workers-kv/

Or maybe it was their Durable Objects product... I forget how that's different from Workers KV: https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/learning/using-dur...

Then each game client uses a worker to access that KV, and Cloudflare will route that worker to its nearest edge node and retrieve the state from there (which was previously replicated a moment ago, internal to Cloudflare's infrastructure).

https://workers.cloudflare.com/

I don't know if this would result in acceptable latency, but it could help with DDOS at least.

Hey there. Firstly, Congratulations on the progress. From the screenshot, I can tell you the UI/UX is great. I have been maintaining Awesome PaaS [1]. Overtime, I have started feeling this space has become commoditised. Because of containers, kubernetes etc. this has been an explosion in the number of tools in the space, however in your case, because of the django/python niche you might have something. In my opinion, very few early stage apps fit into PaaS model, most of the orgs have so much customization that it hard to fit them into your platform. I guess with Django as framework specialization this won't be a problem. Goodluck, with your endeavours.

[1] https://github.com/debarshibasak/awesome-paas

There's been a number of these projects out there. I think the biggest part developers misunderstand when building these is that your target audience either knows AWS enough to build all of this with Terraform / CDK, or they don't know enough about AWS to know which tool they need to use to get done and they use something like Elastic Beanstalk or Amplify. Unfortunately the market for something in the middle is almost non-existent.

You will literally be joining a market that's already over saturated with "Deploy your apps 100x faster/easier/better/safer/secure" platforms. Here's a running list of ones that exist: https://github.com/debarshibasak/awesome-paas

My argument is that most of the small business and startups struggle to make revenue from get go. Asking for revshare, when it is day-0/day-1 kind of situation can hit the startups, small business, individuals really hard.

To me the your model looks very close to a royalty structure. Which is bad on books if you have seen "Shark Tank". It can be a fun place to host apps for indie hackers.

Another argument is that, Major cloud providers give away a lot of credits for various services. It can go upto $100k. I would even argue that you don't need devops or specialized team from you are a small org, startup and your operations are small.

Anyways, Looks like a fun project would love to list you on my Awesome Paas[1] list.

[1] https://github.com/debarshibasak/awesome-paas