with-emacs.sh VS portacle

Well, this is impossible to test if you don't say on what version of Emacs you're experiencing this. You could test if it is your configuration by using the lovely with-emacs script to sandbox.

Check out https://github.com/alphapapa/with-emacs.sh

FWIW, I would generally recommend using with-emacs.sh rather than chemacs2, because it's much simpler to use: https://github.com/alphapapa/with-emacs.sh

Whenever you encounter weird behavior, you should try to reproduce it in a clean Emacs config. This script makes that easy: https://github.com/alphapapa/with-emacs.sh

Not to poach, but you might try this alternative: https://github.com/alphapapa/with-emacs.sh

Wow, finally! And just when I've gotten the bugs ironed out of with-emacs.sh and makem.sh related to Emacs 28's changes. Well, pre-29 versions will still be around for a long time, so with-emacs.sh will remain useful, but it will be nice to have support for this integrated into Emacs.

Sure, but you don't have to throw away your old, comfortable, known-good config to try a new one. Use with-emacs.sh to run as many Emacs configs as you like.

And about 20 minutes later (native comp with full AOT takes a while), I could just run emacs-28.0.60 (or with my script, with-emacs.sh -e emacs-28.0.60 -d ~/src/emacs/configs/ap.el).

I agree that it's a hurdle.

Portacle, https://portacle.github.io/ , is a way around config and whatnot, lowering the threshold a little.

Reminder that Portacle is a way to try Common Lisp (and its tooling!) in a portable, self-contained way, on all platforms.

https://portacle.github.io/

Thanks for your work! I can definitely see how your project improve CL's accessibility. Not sure if you're aware of the Portacle project, but I think there is an opportunity merging two projects together.

Also it is not much of a kit either since the user is left to install all the tools on their own. User who wants an easy to start kit with Emacs baked in is much better using Portacle or clean Emacs, or some of more polished Emacs distributions like Doom or Prelude together with Roswell for the "kit" part.

Then there's Portacle, a portable Emacs with SBCL, Quicklisp and Emacs goodies (magit, file-tree…) pre-installed. https://portacle.github.io/

There are some updates about Portacle last year. The latest is 1.4c Pre-release. https://github.com/portacle/portacle/releases Without Mac, can not verify it.

See also Portacle: https://portacle.github.io/ It is a portable Emacs that is ready-to-use for CL: it comes with Slime, some Emacs packages, Quicklisp and git.

Others have covered the language, but you'll also want tooling. An easy one to get started with is Portacle. It's a Lisp compiler, emacs with Lisp plugins, QuickLisp package manager, etc. so you don't have to spend time setting it all up.

1) I also love VSCode ... but for Lisp Emacs really is so much better. Look at Portacle. It basically is Emacs that's well configured for Common Lisp with SBCL right out of the box. You'll have to learn how SLIME work (the shortcuts to recompile running Lisp, etc).