winter VS Textpattern

Beside Symfony there is Laravel Framework , I will not go into deep difference between this frameworks as it really is just taste of what your team likes more (active record vs datamapper, facade/helpers vs dependency injection, blade vs twig, ...), as already mention above this kind of CMS make sense if Website is just one part of your application and you have to build more then just a simple digital business card / website. In Laravel world there are CMS like October CMS / Winter CMS, which target the same providing a CMS based on the Full Stack Larave framework and give you all features of that framework. Another already mention CMS in Laravel world is Statmatic.

Chances are a lightweight CMS already exists. Winter CMS is one such option.

Or Winter CMS (https://wintercms.com/) ;)

As someone who dabbled in PHP but is mostly a self-taught JS hobbyist dev, I have been using and loving Directus (https://directus.io) since around the time they switched to Node. Development velocity is exceptional with new features released every couple of weeks and bugfixes/enhancements even more frequent, the community and core team is fantastic, and I like the fact that if I ever decide to switch to another CMS for some reason, there's no real import/export process, I just delete the directus_tables in my database, and done.

Pocketbase (https://pocketbase.io/) piqued my interest after seeing it here and on ProductHunt, but I don't think it would be the right call for a client before it hits a stable release.

I also very much enjoyed OctoberCMS (although it has its quirks), but there was a fairly acrimonious split in the community there, and OctoberCMS is no longer open source, and I haven't used the fork (WinterCMS: https://wintercms.com/)

I enjoyed using Apostrophe (https://apostrophecms.com/) for a while, but ultimately I felt like I was doing a lot of stuff in a way that didn't come naturally to me, and although Mongo seems a logical choice when you look at Apostrophe's page model, it worried me a bit that the data would not be easy to move if I ever wanted to.

I'm biased, but it might be worth taking a look at Winter CMS. It's built on Laravel, so you get everything you would with Laravel but it also has some pretty powerful features on top of what you get out of the box with Laravel. Its plugin system and extensibility is also second to none. It's different from a few of the other options though in that you don't add it to an existing project, you build your projects from the start in it.

Winter CMS is an open source fork of OctoberCMS. They've just put Laravel 9 support in place as well.

If you're looking at October I'd give Winter a look too (https://wintercms.com), October is no longer open source and Winter is the open source fork of October. (Disclaimer: I'm the lead maintainer for Winter CMS)

Winter CMS? Laravel based and very developer friendly! https://wintercms.com/

If you're thinking of using Bolt but would also like to have access to the power of Laravel, I'd recommend taking a look at Winter CMS (open source fork of October CMS, built on Laravel / Symfony): https://wintercms.com

Have you ever looked at Winter CMS? https://wintercms.com it's a CMS built on Laravel that's super easy to customize and add your exact needs to.

>What's with the insistence of running it off of just MySQL?

I think the most honest answer here is that it's planned but not scheduled. There's an open issue to update Textpattern to PDO:

https://github.com/textpattern/textpattern/issues/345

…which will open up a whole new world of possibilities.

The Textpattern dev team & user base is pretty small, and the user base is largely patient, so Textpattern can sometimes fall into a trap of being 'good enough for now' and go for extended periods of time with few commits. What tends to happen is a release is scheduled, takes place, and then the plans for the next release are more forefront in our minds. The most recent release was nearly two years ago, which is a long time in Textpattern terms, but I'm confident we can get Textpattern 4.9 into the release pipeline this winter. More on that here:

https://github.com/textpattern/textpattern/issues/1879

https://github.com/textpattern/textpattern/releases.atom

Depends on the need...I have a quick LibreOffice HTML template in light or dark. I include metas for mobile use in the document properties. I also have a PHP controller that can easily modify these if I need it to be more dynamic.

Otherwise I use https://picocss.com/ for some things.

For publishing I either drop the HTML file in a folder with or without a controller, or start a new endpoint by creating a new section in TXP [1] and drop in whatever HTML and txp xml tags I need there.

1. https://textpattern.com/

Textile was the driving markup behind Textpattern (https://textpattern.com/), one of the better publishing/CMS tools out there on PHP. It had a nice object oriented approach that was less painful than Wordpress, and gave great flexibility to design aspects in ways that were easier to work with than Wordpress... but Wordpress won the popular marketshare, and TP was relegated to some diehards. Those diehards still pump out fixes and features, and it's worth a look at https://github.com/textpattern/textpattern/ if you want to see something a bit different.

>It bills itself as a "Content Management System", which I've always thought was an amorphous term. I suppose you could use it for a blog, wiki, or something similar.

Textpattern person here. It's readily usable as a blog, corporate site, etc. A wiki would be less straightforward, especially if you have multiple users doing stuff, since we don't have any revision history built into the core software.

Textpattern 4.0.0 (the first production version) was released in 2005, and we're currently working on Textpattern 4.8.8 for release in Q4 this year after PHP 8.1 lands at the end of November.

The 4.9 release series is also being worked on, we'll probably see the first cut from that branch in 2022.

Some links:

* https://github.com/textpattern/textpattern (core software)

* https://forum.textpattern.com/ (community forum)

* https://docs.textpattern.com (docs)

* https://textpattern.co/demo (demo landing page)

* https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=textpattern (CVEs on mitre.org)

Wordpress made a great impact on the net, and I was happy when clients liked its ease of use and relieved from the burden of making content changes. (Though, I've always felt that https://textpattern.com/ was more secure and better than Wordpress).

Consider Textpattern.