windmill VS Twenty

Data Handling: Utilizes Windmill for data pipelines, with a primary database powered by PostgreSQL. Auxiliary data storage is handled by MongoDB, with Redis for caching to optimize performance

Look very similar to the script builder portion of https://github.com/windmill-labs/windmill, but not open-source, not self-hostable, and without open-source integrations (https://hub.windmill.dev/)

disclaimer: I'm founder of ^

If you need a job queue on Postgres, https://windmill.dev provide an all-integrated developer platform with a Pg queue at its core that support jobs defined in python/typescript/sql

windmill.dev - Windmill is an open-source developer platform to quickly build production-grade multi-step automation and internal apps from minimal Python and Typescript scripts. As a free user, you can create and be a member of at most three non-premium workspaces.

For an alternative to airplane.dev, you can checkout Windmill.

https://github.com/windmill-labs/windmill

"Open-source developer infrastructure for internal tools (APIs, background jobs, workflows and UIs). Self-hostable alternative to Airplane, Pipedream, Superblocks and a simplified Temporal with autogenerated UIsm and custom UIs to trigger workflows and scripts as internal apps.

Scripts are turned into sharable UIs automatically, and can be composed together into flows or used into richer apps built with low-code. Supported script languages supported are: Python, TypeScript, Go, Bash, SQL, and GraphQL. "

If you search HN, you'll find the creator of Windmill comment on comparisons to airplane.dev:

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

https://windmill.dev is a self-hostable OSS alternative to pipedream

(disclaimer: I'm founder)

I'm genuinely curious what server-side stuff on BC you are referring to. That may have been something added after our assessment. The way I'd generally approach something like that for any of the platforms would be using an external low/no code solution to process webhook data. But it would depend heavily on the use case. For a more developer friendly option I've been really impressed by windmill.dev. We use a mix of n8n and windmill for various needs.

Yes it goes in that direction, however note that you can already do this in a not too hard way.

Our openflow spec is both open-source and has a full openapi definition: https://github.com/windmill-labs/windmill/blob/main/openflow...

you can use that to generate client sdks in any languages and build your own dag with it. That's what one of our customer did building a reactflow to openflow library: https://github.com/Devessier/reactflow-to-windmill

It's not as good as the decorator way but we move fast and if you still have interest for it we could prioritize it (and ask for feedbacks :))

I had the opportunity to work on a github issue in an open source project to add a Github workflow that runs if some files where modified in the path packages/twenty-website and checks that the website is still building.

You should check out Twenty! https://twenty.com/ (YC S23) -- they're an OSS CRM.

I totally agree the object management UI is too clunky right now. I want to redo that set of pages, they were the first ones we shipped. Not gonna lie, idk if anyone except me and Ned are really pining to learn hotkeys for managing object schemas, since in practice we're the only ones doing that on a regular basis -- we do initial setup on behalf of our customers.

Yeah, I consider latency part of UX. We're doing some somewhat fancy stuff to reliably replicate every record into a couple of stores, each of which is optimized for different access patterns (search, get latest by ID, etc.). The big central Postgres(TM) is mostly there to be authoritative and to transactionally maintain invariants in the system.

Open Source software will never be able to monetize as well as closed-source. We might only capture 10% of the value we create. But being open source inherently creates strong network effects that tends to push towards a limited number of winners, and the addressable market in CRM is so big that it's still possible to build multi-billion dollar company while massively driving the costs down for everyone.

It's kind of like the Prisoner's Dilemma: If every company keep their software proprietary, they can all make on moderate growth/profit. But if one goes open-source, they could attract a large community, drive innovation, and potentially reap long-term profits while reducing the overall market size.

[1] https://github.com/twentyhq/twenty

Twenty- A modern CRM offering the flexibility of open-source, advanced features and sleek design.

Twenty: https://github.com/twentyhq/twenty/pulls?q=is%3Apr+author%3A...

Our main technical challenge has been securing code sharing. One solution was building GitSlice, which enables creating sub-repos that sync with the upstream repo. When GitStart devs create PRs on the platform, GitSlice syncs them upstream while pulling back CI/CD checks and review comments. This enables our devs to contribute with limited codebase access.

To prevent slices from breaking, we verify they run within a docker container, which also enables us to build review environments. Fun fact: we managed to support native iOS and Android codebases by building and running them on appetize.io instead of docker.

There have been countless attempts at this space so we would love to hear your feedback on how we approached this problem or your past experiences working with junior devs in this way. We look forward to a good conversation!

Interesting, the UI looks the same as Twenty ( https://twenty.com/ ), that was shared on HN this week.

Sorry about that, it's not an intentional dark pattern, just the result of a very short timeline to build this. I've just created an issue to prioritize this soon: https://github.com/twentyhq/twenty/issues/774

We are trying to be conscious about data privacy too (e.g. no tracker or third-party cookie on our website)