vos
Cello
vos | Cello | |
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21 | 18 | |
1,807 | 6,238 | |
1.3% | - | |
9.2 | 0.0 | |
7 days ago | 8 months ago | |
V | C | |
GNU General Public License v3.0 only | GNU General Public License v3.0 or later |
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vos
- Vala Programming Language
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V Language Review (2023)
The creator of V made some big claims that raised a few eyeballs, they've gained a reasonable following over the years, have a pretty serious looking website (https://vlang.io) a beer-money level Patreon following and some corporate partnerships/sponsors. However have experienced some pretty brutal takedowns over the years, with some of the bolder claims about the language/compiler being exposed as being.
A word I keep seeing in relation to V is "aspirational" - the project aspires to be a serious language with some major features, so I think it's fair to approach it with a more critical eye than one would a kid's side-project. I think HN would have been pretty understanding if they were open about the state of the various features and were a little less defensive when they encounter articles that treat it like a Real Language and review it as such. If the authors don't want this kind of feedback they can just say front-and-centre (or on their FAQ @ https://github.com/vlang/v/wiki/FAQ) "this is a toy" or "this is pre-alpha"
- OpenD, a D language fork that is open to your contributions
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Why is Vlang's autofree model not more widely used?
Autofree has existed for years and can work. Here is a demo. It is used in V's Vinix OS, Ved, and other applications. Part of the issue is there are detractors who purposefully spread misinformation nor know about its other memory options, and the other part is understanding how to use it.
- Ask HN: Why did Nim not catch-on like wild fire as Rust did?
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Thinking if should i continue to use zig
Another option is to write the kernel in V. Vinix is an OS written in V. You can use it for reference when building your project.
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V Language Review (2022)
And that's why vinix [1] is full of manual free call? That tells how good autofree is, isn't it? Can you compile v compiler with autofree? Last time I checked, you can't.
[1] https://github.com/vlang/vinix/search?q=free&type=code
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Hello V-Lang
vweb, volt, and ved are not a "little more than alpha"
yes, the os is being developed in V, and it can already run bash, GCC, G++, and Doom.
https://github.com/vlang/vinix
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Cello – High Level C
It's a great concept, but languages like Rust (https://www.rust-lang.org/), Zig (https://ziglang.org), Vlang (https://vlang.io/), etc... are already running with a similar idea to being easy to interact with C and are viable alternatives to it as well. Vlang even created its own OS, Vinix (https://github.com/vlang/vinix), to show its capabilities in this regard.
Seems to me, Cello would be more for those C programmers that didn't want to try the various alternative languages that are now out, and happen to agree with its developer's interpretation of what high level constructs would look like. The point of these alternative languages is to offer features that C doesn't have or to implement them in easier or clearer ways.
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Vinix, Operating System in the V Programming Language
Vinix shows the capabilities of V on bare metal, in additional to it being useful for high-level programming as well. https://github.com/vlang/vinix
Cello
- Libcello – higher level C programming
- The NSA list of memory-safe programming languages has been updated
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Object-oriented Programming with ANSI-C [pdf]
Yes, that's C. C macros can take you quite far. Unfortunately because it's just a bunch of macros, it's quite brittle. Like high level abstractions created with macros in assembly language. You have to do all the checking and reasoning about it since the compiler cannot.
[1] https://libcello.org/
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Better C Generics: The Extendible _Generic
It took me a long time to understand, coming from higher level programming, that a lot of exactly that "higher level" is just systematic fat pointer conventions. And because pointers-with-metadata is not a first-class language construct, we invent all these languages that codify a particular fat pointer convention. Cello is an example of what kinds of abstractions can be built on top of a tiny little bit of (non-native) fat pointer convention.
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OOP in C
There is a lightweight object oriented extension to C called Objective-C [1] that unfortunately never gained much traction outside the NeXT/Apple ecosystem. There is also Cello [2].
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective-C
[2] https://github.com/orangeduck/Cello
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Ask HN: Modern C Libraries
Regular expressions library to validate information before dumping to rocksdb.
https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Regular-E...
Non-critical implimentation fun, use cello [1] for 'gawk' functionality in C with C++ objects/classes.
[1] https://libcello.org/
- What does the ??!??! operator do in C?
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Is it possible to make C as safe as Rust?
You can achieve a fairly decent runtime safety for some types of project. Check out libcello and my own monster (libstent, lame presentation).
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Ask HN: I like studying the concept of abstractions
towards lisp related data structures / algorithms (aka recursive tree data structures & algorithms).
So, no distinction between metadata vs. structual storage unless noted.
Anything beyond that tends towards masters & upper level undergraduate level material. aka review the implimentation of a programming language for algorithm & data structure usage per language features.
aka Autonoma / regular expressions backround: Lisp in Small Pieces by Christian Queinnec; ; https://github.com/aalhour/awesome-compilers; On Lisp by Paul Graham; Let over Lambda by Doug Hoyte; C 'macro's pushed to maximum effect : https://libcello.org/
Left out Comparison of languages; Transform from lang a to lang b; and language implimentation as discussions tend to assume masters / upper level undergraduate knowledge
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Cake: C23 Front End and Transpiler C23 – C99
with skills like this, mind to push cello forward? https://github.com/orangeduck/Cello really like it but not skillful enough to do it myself.
What are some alternatives?
v - Simple, fast, safe, compiled language for developing maintainable software. Compiles itself in <1s with zero library dependencies. Supports automatic C => V translation. https://vlang.io
cfront-3 - self education and historical research of the C++ compiler cfront v3
zig-gamedev - Main monorepo for @zig-gamedev libs and example applications
glibc - GNU Libc
v-mode - 🌻 An Emacs major mode for the V programming language.
infer - A static analyzer for Java, C, C++, and Objective-C
procs - Unix process&system query&format lib&multi-command CLI in Nim
rust - Empowering everyone to build reliable and efficient software.
awesome-v - A curated list of awesome V frameworks, libraries, software and resources.
metaparse - A library for generating compile time parsers parsing embedded DSL code as part of the C++ compilation process