neorg VS logseq

[https://github.com/vhyrro/neorg

Link: https://github.com/vhyrro/neorg Extra GIFs: https://github.com/vhyrro/neorg/tree/main#camera-extra-gifs ​ Neorg is a tool designed to reinvent your life's organization at a modern, unique way. Use all of the latest shiny Neovim features to provide the best possible note taking experience. Right off the bat let's ask ourselves the most important question: why Neorg - why not something like org mode? I'm gonna be real, I don't like org mode. The org format is ugly, it's difficult. Complexity isn't about how complicated the medium is, it's about how expressive it is; this is precisely the problem we're solving. We want this to be the true organizational plugin for Neovim, going head to head with emacs in a battle of the titans. ​ # Features * New and revised norg format - take everything that's good from markdown, everything that's good from org, reimagine it, piece ‏‏‎ it together - almost like it's some form of art. Little ambiguity, lots of expressiveness, perfect for writing. It's so syntactically predictable in fact it's almost like a programming language ;) * TreeSitter Parser - remember when I talked about shiny features, this is just one of em! Thanks to said parser (link here) Neorg can have a deep understanding of your documents, allowing us to almost read your mind. Having such a parser opens up almost endless possibilities, and we're excited to continue improving on the technology. * Logical keybinds - Neorg currently doesn't have much keybinds, but we can guarantee that the keys we will provide by default will just "make sense", following suit in Neovim's keybind methodology. Keys form a language, one that you can simply think of, not one that you must memorize. * Completion source for nvim-compe - that's not it though! We don't just support a completion source, how boring would that be? Our completion source works tightly with TreeSitter to provide contextual completion based on where you are in the syntax tree. Getting shivers just thinking about it. Smart completion for everyone! * Language injection for Neorg code tags, get syntax highlighting for any language that's supported by TreeSitter :D * Workspaces - group together your .norg files and jump between different workspaces like a wizard thanks to the :Neorg workspace command. * Insane extensibility - it's easy to throw around such a buzzword, so let me reiterate: we're not joking, we're serious. Neorg is built on top of a very configurable and powerful backend, one built on top of modules. Modules are pay-for-what-you-use pieces of code that build the foundation of Neorg like lego bricks. They can interact, they can be hotswapped, they're fully independent (unless you don't make them so). This means you can throw away any features you don't use with absolutely no performance penalties whatsoever. * The Wiki - we want to make this plugin accessible to both users and developers. The wiki is your informational powerhouse, I can guarantee that most of your questions will be answered there. # Why the "road to 0.1" in the title? Neorg is nowhere close to being finished - in fact, we're only just getting started. We've spent 3 months making this plugin and we're only just starting to get serious features. Neorg 0.1 will be the first official release of Neorg - one that will provide you with all the basics to kickstart you on your note taking journey. If I had to make an estimate, we're currently somewhere in version 0.0.7 or 0.0.8. Not too far off from that beautiful 0.1, eh? We're always open to support, bug fixes, and creating issues on GitHub. If you have any knowledge in lua then hop along for the ride! # Expected features for 0.1 (not present yet): * Telescope.nvim integration to fuzzy find anything - .norg files in workspaces, headings, subheadings, markers, drawers, you name it. * Magical time snippets. Type +date to insert the current date, +now to insert the current date and time, +tomorrow to insert tomorrow's date etc. Also provide a +custom to allow you to specify your own date and time format. * Smart indentation thanks to TreeSitter * Even more autocompletion and editing supports * Maybe custom LSP triggers upon entering a code block with a defined language? * Smarter syntax highlighting in some scenarios * Video tutorials on using Neorg and its format # If you want to look even further into the future, here's what we plan on doing for version 0.2: * Tangling support - execute code blocks, see their output. Easy peasy. Flex on your friends with configurations written in .norg too * Native image support - yeah. We'll either use hologram.nvim or we'll create some PRs to improve it beforehand if no development happens in that area * Pandoc engine for file format conversion - if there's someone smart enough to do it. I'm certainly not. * Snippet support * Beginnings of a table editor * UIs * Ability to upgrade .org files into .norg files (either through the pandoc engine or through a custom implementation) At first you may be a bit confused, this is normal! There's no real tutorial on Neorg's format yet, however you may be interested in reading the specification as I make the tutorials :) If I don't respond to comments it's probably because I'm sleeping. I hope y'all have a blast trying and testing this new technology out just as much as I am having a blast making it. Much love, Vhyrro

I like to use vhyrro/neorg plugin. Readme is self-descriptive.

Logseq support via our Logseq Plugin

Sorry, but _what exactly_ «it seems to do» from your point of view?

My «second brain» now is almost 300Mb of text, pictures, sound files, PDF and other stuff. As I already mentioned, it contains tables, mathematical formulae, sheet music, cross-references, code samples, UML diagrams and graphs in Graphviz format. It is versioned, indexed by local search engine, analyzed by AI assistant and shared between many computers and mobile devices. And (last but not least) it works: it allows me to solve my tasks way more faster than with the assistant of external, non-personalized tools (like ChatGPT, StackExchange or Google).

I know no tools for all this tasks except org-mode. Well, maybe Evernote in the 2010-s was something similar — but with less features, with more bugs and with worse interface.

Personal note-taking _is_ a complex task per se (well, at least for someone like typical HN visitor). I've seen many note-taking tools, that were ridiculously featureless, stupid and inconvenient because they were _not_ complex enough.

> Sure if one wants to do emacs-gardening it is fine.

1)You can use org-mode outside Emacs. See for example Logseq (https://logseq.com/), organice (https://organice.200ok.ch/) or EasyOrg.

2)Org-mode works in Emacs out of the box, you don't need any «emacs-gardening» to use org-mode.

3)The term «Emacs-gardening» itself sound a bit like hate-speech for me. The complexity of Emacs customization is overrated, mostly due to opinions of people who never used Emacs or used it in the previous millennium.

Obsidian is great.

For those looking for an open source alternative (or don't want to pay the Obsidian fees for professional usage) check out Logseq: https://logseq.com/

For an opensource alternative to Obsidian checkout Logseq (1). I spent a while thinking obsidian was opensource out of my own ignorance and was disappointed when I learned it was not.

1: https://logseq.com/

I use logseq to keep journal of my daily work.

While Emacs and Org mode can certainly be used for this (and, when they can't, you can always inject little python/js scripts in your emacs config to take care of specific things), I'd also recommend you take a look at Logseq.