logseq VS obsidian-dataview

Does anyone have a "lab notebook" style of PKM in Emacs?

I used to use Org-Roam in Emacs, but fell in love with Logseq [0], primarily because

1. it has a "daily journal" default workflow (though individual pages are supported)

2. the support of datalog queries

3. templates

This basically allows me to make templates for things I need (e.g. meeting notes, etc) and to write a few key queries (that are also templated for reuse) to do things like get the most overdue tasks, upcoming, things I promised to others, things I'm waiting on, etc. I can even drill down and get that stuff for an individual "page", e.g. "Emacs" or "C++".

The lack of a "lab journal" format + flexible queries makes going back to other solutions not as enticing, as the "perfect artifact" of wiki-esque editing (and not being able to easily see backlinks) is not as easy. I can open my Logseq folder, make a "meeting" template, then #tag the people and topics discussed, and be able to go back later and make a query to see when I discussed #topic with #person.

I would love to move this back into Emacs, as I hate having a separate tool for PKM, so if anyone has a similar workflow (or at least flexible queries on "tags" and task status, backlinks, etc, even without the daily journal thing), I'd be grateful for any tips.

[0] https://logseq.com/

logseq fully free and open-source Obsidan-like tool with fewer plugins, however, it also gives you a chance to complex everything a lot. I have been using it for less than a year, however at some point, I noticed that I'm writing longer forms in Obsidian, and daily notes in Logseq. Why? Due Logseq design. It starts everything as a new point with -, even if it's a standard Markdown. We’re starting everything at a new point. Issues?

I would recommend https://logseq.com/

Progress on the `master` branch is a bit slow because there's a transition towards using a database instead of the filesystem https://github.com/logseq/logseq/tree/feat/db

https://discuss.logseq.com/t/why-the-database-version-and-ho...

Unfortunately, I think it's ultimately unethical to support the normalization of closed-source text-editing software, because it sets a bad precedent for the level of trust a user should have in their computing environment. For this reason, I much prefer Logseq. https://logseq.com/

I really like Logseq, and I feel it's the only one of the note-taking tools that has the tradeoffs I want (outliner, local-first, focuses on content on a block-by-block basis, has backlinks), but recently there's been not much happening, and the mobile app has been slightly broken for me for a while now (when opening a note I often can't add new bullet points, so I end up writing notes in an invalid format).

I'm really looking forward to their db-oriented version which is supposed to be merged into main (here's the long-lived branch[0]) this month. Presumably that will bring the project back up to speed, since that branch is currently almost 4k (!!!) commits ahead of main.

At the same time, I'm a bit worried about how the company is gonna sustain itself. After all they raised quite a bit of money, while at the same time I'm not sure how large a market there is for commercialisation of an open-source PKM app like this. Esp. since it looks like its market-share is maybe ~1/10th that of Obsidian (based on most popular plugin download counts). TFA is kind of related to this.

While Obsidian is great from a sustainability perspective (it seems to me) but unfortunately it comes short of being a good outliner.

[0]: https://github.com/logseq/logseq/tree/feat/db

Logseq support via our Logseq Plugin

At the end of the day, I use Dataview, a plugin for Obsidian, which allows me to make queries to my notes similar to SQL to visualize the collected information:

https://github.com/blacksmithgu/obsidian-dataview

This whole ideas to have data, visualisations and knowledge base in one private offline place is very appealing

Since at least 2012 I've also been using a text file format from http://todotxt.org/ and more recently I wrote a program that takes a crontab-like list to pre-generate entries on a daily, by-day-name (every Sunday for example), and I also pull in a list of holidays from gov.uk, so they are also populated.

[^1]: (https://github.com/blacksmithgu/obsidian-dataview)

Refer: Obsidian Search, How I Use Embedded Queries, Dataview, Excalibrain

Ref: https://github.com/blacksmithgu/obsidian-dataview/issues/544 (Bearbeitet)

For using it, having SQL or JavaScript knowledge is useful, but you can probably figure it out without that knowledge. The Github page has a lot of examples that you can cannabalize for simple things without really getting too deep into it.

Check it here.

I think this could be helpful https://github.com/blacksmithgu/obsidian-dataview/issues/1086

Have you heard of Obsidian? It's a note-taking app build on locally stored markdown files with bidirectional linking and a great ecosystem of third party plugins. One of the most popular plugins is https://github.com/blacksmithgu/obsidian-dataview which lets you treat your notes as databases and query them to form tables. The creator has been working on its successor, Datacore https://github.com/blacksmithgu/datacore for a while - Datacore might come close to what you're looking for, its goals include WYSIWYG views and live editing inside tables.