valadoc-org VS vos

My favorite thing about Vala personally is the wide range of native libraries you have access to because of its compatibility with GObjects.

There's a great documentation website that has everything located in one place also, which makes development a breeze: https://valadoc.org/

Meson is the preferred build system, and Valadoc.org is invaluable.

You can use guides written for C along with https://valadoc.org.

I'm not sure who needs to be contacted, but valadoc.org is down. I was unable to reach it in Firefox or Chrome. Who do I need to contact? I'm seeing that elementaryOS is hosting valadoc.org, is that still the case?

The official Vala documentation is valadoc.org. I found the ecosystem of libraries around the language yet immature: it's not easy to found information or examples (an often when you found something it's pretty old). There isn't a standardization of the documentation of the libraries. This fact doesn't help a newbie.

I believe Vala is the best choice since the syntax is so simple, and has amazing documentation here

For going further, a lot of the API references are friendlier now. I like Valadoc. PyGObject exists for Python. C and Rust don't seem to have a good centralized source, but the documentation is a lot better now a days.

Vala is not very widely used, but all applications in Elementary OS are written in Vala, and their Developer Docs will help you get started writing your first GTK4 application in Vala really quickly. From there on, you can use the excellent valadoc.org for API reference, or browse the source code of Elementary apps on Github.

I'm often using documentation from another language binding when developing with GTK. Most of the time the Vala documentation https://valadoc.org/, because the language was designed around GLib and GTK. In your case it's even closer, because Vala is a C# knockoff with a different backend. Should keep you clear from C verbosity.

Found a monumental commit 😌: https://github.com/vala-lang/valadoc-org/blob/3f434c8bcd76b711d0262284fadbdeeb47165e6a/README.md

The creator of V made some big claims that raised a few eyeballs, they've gained a reasonable following over the years, have a pretty serious looking website (https://vlang.io) a beer-money level Patreon following and some corporate partnerships/sponsors. However have experienced some pretty brutal takedowns over the years, with some of the bolder claims about the language/compiler being exposed as being.

A word I keep seeing in relation to V is "aspirational" - the project aspires to be a serious language with some major features, so I think it's fair to approach it with a more critical eye than one would a kid's side-project. I think HN would have been pretty understanding if they were open about the state of the various features and were a little less defensive when they encounter articles that treat it like a Real Language and review it as such. If the authors don't want this kind of feedback they can just say front-and-centre (or on their FAQ @ https://github.com/vlang/v/wiki/FAQ) "this is a toy" or "this is pre-alpha"

Autofree has existed for years and can work. Here is a demo. It is used in V's Vinix OS, Ved, and other applications. Part of the issue is there are detractors who purposefully spread misinformation nor know about its other memory options, and the other part is understanding how to use it.

Another option is to write the kernel in V. Vinix is an OS written in V. You can use it for reference when building your project.

And that's why vinix [1] is full of manual free call? That tells how good autofree is, isn't it? Can you compile v compiler with autofree? Last time I checked, you can't.

[1] https://github.com/vlang/vinix/search?q=free&type=code

vweb, volt, and ved are not a "little more than alpha"

yes, the os is being developed in V, and it can already run bash, GCC, G++, and Doom.

https://github.com/vlang/vinix

It's a great concept, but languages like Rust (https://www.rust-lang.org/), Zig (https://ziglang.org), Vlang (https://vlang.io/), etc... are already running with a similar idea to being easy to interact with C and are viable alternatives to it as well. Vlang even created its own OS, Vinix (https://github.com/vlang/vinix), to show its capabilities in this regard.

Seems to me, Cello would be more for those C programmers that didn't want to try the various alternative languages that are now out, and happen to agree with its developer's interpretation of what high level constructs would look like. The point of these alternative languages is to offer features that C doesn't have or to implement them in easier or clearer ways.

Vinix shows the capabilities of V on bare metal, in additional to it being useful for high-level programming as well. https://github.com/vlang/vinix