v VS cosmopolitan

Compare v vs cosmopolitan and see what are their differences.

v

Simple, fast, safe, compiled language for developing maintainable software. Compiles itself in <1s with zero library dependencies. Supports automatic C => V translation. https://vlang.io (by vlang)
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v cosmopolitan
219 201
35,272 15,067
0.2% -
9.9 9.8
about 19 hours ago 4 days ago
V C
MIT License ISC License
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v

Posts with mentions or reviews of v. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-02-24.
  • V Language Review (2023)
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 24 Feb 2024
    Their site is clearly showing the language is in beta. The V documentation also states that autofree is WIP, and to use the GC instead. This isn't a corporate created language, but looks to be a true volunteer open source effort from people around the world.

    Their community, in comparison to others, even has their discussions open and open threads for criticism[1]. These

    [1]https://github.com/vlang/v/discussions/7610

  • Towards memory safety with ownership checks for C
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 19 Feb 2024
    V also has this https://github.com/vlang/v/blob/master/doc/docs.md#embed_fil...
  • Vlang Release v0.4.4
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 16 Jan 2024
  • Vox: Upcoming open-source browser engine in V
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 Jan 2024
  • Building a web blog in V &amp; SQLite
    1 project | /r/code | 29 Oct 2023
  • bultin_write_buf_to_fd_should_use_c_write
    1 project | /r/programmingcirclejerk | 25 Oct 2023
  • The V Machine Learning Roadmap and Ecosystem
    1 project | /r/programmingcirclejerk | 6 Oct 2023
  • Show HN: A new stdlib for Golang focusing on platform native support
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 2 Oct 2023
    Goroutines was the selling point for me until they decided to introduce telemetry in their toolchain; that was what forced me to stop using Golang as a whole.

    About GC, I would say: if you implement C++'s RAII mechanism to replace garbage collection, then I believe this project will have a bright future.

    My final question is the following: how `pcz` compares to V language, from a syntax's perspective [1]?

    [1] https://github.com/vlang/v

  • Hopefully, the V developers will establish a relationship with Microsoft.
    1 project | /r/programmingcirclejerk | 4 Sep 2023
  • The V Programming Language 0.4
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 28 Aug 2023
    V has the right to exist, have its supporters, and do things its own way. The creator and developers of V, from what I have seen, has always responded well to constructive criticism. Their language has discussions opened at their GitHub, unlike those for various other languages. They even have a thread for what people don't like and want improved about the language[1], again, something many other languages don't have.

    A lot of what was going on initially, was coming from obvious competitors, to include being uncivil, inflammatory, and insulting. The initial "criticism" was not so much that, but false accusations of the language being a scam, vaporware, fraud, or didn't really exist. To include attacks and jealousy about its funding and having supporters. This was not any kind of "valid" criticism, that the creator or contributors of the language could reason about.

    The "criticism" never died down, but rather after V was open-sourced and established itself on GitHub. The initial series of false accusations could not stand nor could the support it was getting be stopped. So, the rhetoric and targets shifted to whatever could be found to go after on the newly released alpha version of the language and its new website. In that new mix of what was being thrown at it, there were indeed some very valid criticisms, as can be found with any new language.

    Constructive and valid criticism, is not the same as insults, trolling, misinformation, rivalry, or false accusations. There is clearly a difference. It's disingenuous to pretend something from one group is the same as the other, or that the intent behind what is being done is not different.

    [1] https://github.com/vlang/v/discussions/7610

cosmopolitan

Posts with mentions or reviews of cosmopolitan. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-04-15.
  • Python Is Portable
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 15 Apr 2024
    The reality is a bit different, the work on Python 3.6 was checked into the Cosmopolitan repo and I have been able to use it for production workloads that are in pure python. [0]

    As Cosmopolitan Libc has evolved, it has been possible to compile more software without modifications, and that includes latest Python through a project called superconfigure[1].

    Last person who tried to reproduce it from scratch did it last week (granted it too them a few days of solid work) but in the end they ended with a portable binary with Python 3.11.9, brotli, ssl and asyncio for their work related project.[2]

    [0] https://github.com/jart/cosmopolitan/tree/master/third_party...

  • Ask HN: What Underrated Open Source Project Deserves More Recognition?
    63 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 7 Mar 2024
    Cosmopolitan https://github.com/jart/cosmopolitan and https://justine.lol/cosmopolitan/index.html

    Some genius realized that you can actually embed valid win32 programs inside valid posix shell scripts, and found a way to make a C cross-platform solution out of it, meaning that you can write C programs that compile to a single executable that will run on (quoting the site) Linux + Mac + Windows + FreeBSD + OpenBSD + NetBSD + BIOS

    It all started from this post.

  • Cosmopolitan – build-once run-anywhere C library
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 16 Feb 2024
  • Show HN: Usr/bin/env Docker run
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 13 Jan 2024
    For this .args file, put one argument per line. This will run on start. You can use `/zip/mydepencency.anything` to read from files, but if you have an executable dependency you'll need to extract it first.

    You can do this with any software you can compile with comsocc, by adding a call to LoadZipArgs[1] in the main function.

    It'seasy to get started, your ideas will branch out as soon as you start playing with it.

    [1]: https://github.com/jart/cosmopolitan/blob/master/tool/args/a...

  • Libwebsockets
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 6 Jan 2024
    FWIW there is ongoing work with good progress to add websocket support to redbean (https://github.com/jart/cosmopolitan/pull/967)
  • Release Cosmopolitan v3.2
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 5 Jan 2024
  • Cosmopolitan v3.2
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 5 Jan 2024
  • Ask HN: ANSI escape sequences reference docs?
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 2 Jan 2024
    Check out this comment by jart (cosmpolitan author) here: https://github.com/jart/cosmopolitan/issues/766#issuecomment...

    it might help but not sure how comprehensive it is! would it be a bad idea for you to check out the source code of other popular emulators (maybe iTerm 2^0) ?

    0: https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Agnachman%2FiTerm2%20ansi&...

  • Actually Portable Vim (With a Cute Vimrc)
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 25 Dec 2023
    The binary was compiled with Cosmopolitan Libc [0], and therefore the binary will execute natively on Linux, Mac, Windows, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, and bare metal (BIOS boot).

    I would call that portable.

    [0] https://github.com/jart/cosmopolitan

  • Show HN: PyApp – runtime installer for Python applications
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 13 Dec 2023
    will go on my "to try" list where i already have cosmopolitan [2]. my last setup (windows) was shiv + wine + nsis (used that as pyinstaller had some issues)[2]

    [1] https://github.com/jart/cosmopolitan/issues/141#issuecomment...

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