µTest VS dotty

Let's clarify some points for folks not so familiar with Scala.

> * Scala minor version are binary incompatible, so maintaining Scala projects is a big pain. Upgrading Spark from Scala 2.11 to Scala 2.12 was a massive undertaking for example.

Scala just chose a strange naming scheme. Other languages would have just increased their major version instead. The scala minor version is increased every few years and not every month or so.

> * Scala has tons of language features and lets people do crazy things in the code.

Actually, that's not true. Or rather: compared to what language?

Scala has surprisingly few language features, but the ones it has are very flexible and powerful. Take Kotlin for example. It has method extensions as a dedicated feature. Scala just has implicits which can be used for method extension.

> * Scalatest is stil used by most projects and is annoying to use, as described here: https://github.com/lihaoyi/utest#why-utest. The overuse of DSLs in Scala is really annoying.

I agree with the overuse of DSLs. Luckily that got much better, but older libraries like scalatest still suffer from that.

> * Li's libs (os-lib, upickle, utest) have clean public interfaces, but most Scala ecosystem libs are hard to use, see the JSON alternatives for examples

I think that just comes from using the library in a non-idiomatic way. In most applications, you will need to use the whole json anyways, and then you use (or can use) circe like that:

    {

Dotty? Was it still the name later?

http://dotty.epfl.ch/

I think this might be related to this issue.

You can look (and EPFL collect feedback) about EPFL implementation of async/await: https://github.com/lampepfl/async. Also you can look at dotty ticket about this: https://github.com/lampepfl/dotty/pull/16739

The reason I’m not currently an opaque type user as they do not play well with the tagless final style we use, though I am patiently awaiting some attention on my bug report: https://github.com/lampepfl/dotty/issues/17281

Links: - https://dotty.epfl.ch/ - https://scala-native.org/en/stable/ - https://www.scala-js.org/ - https://typelevel.org/ - https://zio.dev/ - https://github.com/scala-native/scala-native/pull/3120 - https://github.com/lampepfl/dotty/pull/16517 - https://dotty.epfl.ch/docs/reference/experimental/index.html - https://scala-cli.virtuslab.org/ - https://scalameta.org/metals/ - https://docs.scala-lang.org/scala3/guides/migration/compatibility-intro.html - https://www.scala-lang.org/blog/2023/04/18/faster-scalajs-development-with-frontend-tooling.html - https://www.scala-lang.org/blog/2022/08/17/long-term-compatibility-plans.html

Scala Native has much more control on how the Scala AST is compiled, and can easier workaround platform limitations, eg. lazy vals in Scala 3 required reflection config for Native Image (see this and that), while in Scala Native we could mitigate problems with unsupported usage inside in other ways within the compiler plugin.

By the way, you might be interested in this recent PR which overhauls the scala 3 macro docs: https://github.com/lampepfl/dotty/pull/17060.

For example, this issue (https://github.com/lampepfl/dotty/issues/12840) was blocking the migration, it was reported more than a year ago and the fix was finally released a month ago (https://github.com/lampepfl/dotty/releases/tag/3.3.0-RC2).

For the record, there is an implementation of :javap which is close to being done but might need a volunteer to get it over the finish line: https://github.com/lampepfl/dotty/pull/12210

im glad to tell you that in 3.3.0 a lot of these -Wunused lints will be supported: see https://github.com/lampepfl/dotty/pull/16157