tz VS systemd

Compare tz vs systemd and see what are their differences.

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1,429 12,516
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9.2 10.0
5 days ago 5 days ago
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tz

Posts with mentions or reviews of tz. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-08-31.
  • RFC 3339 vs. ISO 8601
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 31 Aug 2023
    A link was added from "Europe/Kiev" to "Europe/Kyiv" in the included-by-default backward file [0], so that any user that doesn't exclude that file will simply treat the old name as an alias for the new name.

    [0] https://github.com/eggert/tz/commit/e13e9c531fc48a04fb8d064a...

  • A Guide to Date and Time Formatting in JavaScript
    1 project | dev.to | 22 Aug 2023
    timeZone: Determines the current timezone to use to display the time e.g. America/Los_Angeles. Full list can be found on IANA time zone database
  • Navigating the timezone nightmare in product development
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 14 Aug 2023
    "Eire" is in there, for instance, to deal with software that assumes that the "is_dst" half of the year is during the (northern) summer, but Ireland technically does it the other way around -- a distinction relevant only to computers.

    https://github.com/eggert/tz/blob/c3e966c59b02b1f47f0b7b0e4a...

    The only other timezone that currently has a non-1h offset for DST -- Ireland's is -1 hours -- is Australia/Lord_Howe, which has a 30-min positive leap.

  • coolest discoveries at ucla
    1 project | /r/ucla | 26 Jun 2023
    Prof Paul Eggert is currently the editor and coordinator of the Time Zone Database of IANA, which enables timestamps on official documents and photos.
  • Small parser for the tzdb text file format (based on Esrap)
    2 projects | /r/lisp | 24 Jun 2023
    I've looked at it, but wanted to work with the tz source repository directly (I think local-time gets their zone files from Ubuntu). Also getting zic running in a portable way seemed too much of a hassle. The text file format is not all that complicated and documented in the zic manual pretty well. This approach is also chosen by the JDK as far as I can tell.
  • Time Zone Database
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 24 May 2023
  • Software developers in 60s
    1 project | /r/ProgrammerHumor | 29 Apr 2023
    Subscribe to tz-announce for more fun: https://www.iana.org/time-zones
  • Regional Daylight Saving Timezone changed but not reflected in Android
    1 project | /r/AndroidQuestions | 28 Apr 2023
    Unfortunately, you just wait. The person(s) at IANA who manages The Time Zone Database is certainly aware, and from there it "just" has to percolate down to Google and your phone.
  • Google home can't even tell the right time.
    1 project | /r/googlehome | 16 Apr 2023
    most systems use https://www.iana.org/time-zones
  • What is your opinion of Daylight Saving Time?
    1 project | /r/AskAnAmerican | 31 Mar 2023
    And have you looked at the TZ database? My God it's a hot mess, and for good reason: human governments are terrible at creating code. Worse even than beginning CS students, because at least CS students know they don't know what they're doing, while politicians are both stupid and arrogant enough to think they're not stupid.

systemd

Posts with mentions or reviews of systemd. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-05-04.
  • PoC to demonstrate root permission hijacking by exploiting "systemd-run"
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 May 2024
    No, the OP was not sent any harassment, the OP _did_ the harassment as it can be seen in the tweets. I mean, they are right there, just click on the links you shared. One of the OP's followers even openly called for the assassination of the project maintainer, and you have the galls to defend him? This is truly deranged stuff.

    And again, there is no "vulnerability", there is simply a person that doesn't know how Linux works and has learned something new. Which again it's fine, nobody knows everything and we all learn new things everyday, it's just that normal and sensible people don't use that to make grand claims on social media and start harassment campaigns culminating in death threats.

    Professional security researchers responsibly report real issues using the appropriate channels, such as defined at: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/security/policy this is not the work of a researcher, this is a grifter looking for self-promotion on social media.

  • Run0 – systemd based alternative to sudo announced
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 1 May 2024
    > 3. even `adduser` will not allow it by default

    5. useradd does allow it (as noted in a comment). 6. Local users are not the only source, there things like LDAP and AD.

    7. POSIX allows it:

    * https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6237#issuecomment-...

  • Systemd Rolling Out "run0" As sudo Alternative
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 30 Apr 2024
    > I for one love to type out 13 extra characters

    FWIW, systemd is normally pretty good at providing autocomplete suggestions, so even if you don't want to set up an alias you'll probably just have to type `--b ` to set it.

    > I wonder what random ASCII escape sequences we can send.

    According to the man page source[0]:

    > The color specified should be an ANSI X3.64 SGR background color, i.e. strings such as `40`, `41`, …, `47`, `48;2;…`, `48;5;…`

    and a link to the relevant Wikipedia page[1]. Given systemd's generally decent track record wrt defects and security issues, and the simplicity of valid colour values, I expect there's a fairly robust parameter verifier in there.

    In fact, given the focus on starting the elevated command in a highly controlled environment, I'd expect the colour codes to be output to the originating terminal, not forwarded to the secure pty. That way, the only thing malformed escapes can affect is your own process, which you already have full control over anyway.

    (Happy to be shown if that's a mistaken expectation though.)

    [0] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/main/man/run0.xml

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI_escape_code#SGR_(Select_G...

  • Crash-only software: More than meets the eye
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 30 Apr 2024
  • Systemd Wants to Expand to Include a Sudo Replacement
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 30 Apr 2024
    bash & zsh are supported by upstream: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/tree/main/shell-completio...
  • "Run0" as a Sudo Replacement
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 30 Apr 2024
    the right person to replace sudo, not: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6237

    PS: https://pwnies.com/systemd-bugs/

  • Linux fu: getting started with systemd
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 14 Apr 2024
    https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/32028#issuecomment...

    There are some very compelling arguments made there if you care to read them

  • Ubuntu 24.04 (and Debian) removed libsystemd from SSH server dependencies
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 13 Apr 2024
    Maybe it was because you weren't pointing out anything new?

    There was a pull request to stop linking libzma to systemd before the attack even took place

    https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/31550

    This was likely one of many things that pushed the attackers to work faster, and forced them into making mistakes.

  • Systemd minimizing required dependencies for libsystemd
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 12 Apr 2024
    The PR for changing compression libraries to use dlopen() was opened several weeks before the xz-utils backdoor was revealed.

    https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/31550

  • Going in circles without a real-time clock
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 10 Apr 2024

What are some alternatives?

When comparing tz and systemd you can also consider the following projects:

lcurses - Lua bindings for Curses

openrc - The OpenRC init system

microsoft-foss-fund - The Microsoft FOSS Fund provides a direct way for Microsoft engineers to participate in the nomination and selection process to help communities and projects they are passionate about. The FOSS Fund provides $10,000 sponsorships to open source projects as selected by Microsoft employees.

tini - A tiny but valid `init` for containers

wg-best-practices-os-developers - The Best Practices for OSS Developers working group is dedicated to raising awareness and education of secure code best practices for open source developers.

inotify-tools - inotify-tools is a C library and a set of command-line programs providing a simple interface to inotify.

powertools-lambda-python - A developer toolkit to implement Serverless best practices and increase developer velocity.

s6 - The s6 supervision suite.

rp-hal - A Rust Embedded-HAL for the rp series microcontrollers

earlyoom - earlyoom - Early OOM Daemon for Linux

polonius - Defines the Rust borrow checker.

supervisor - Supervisor process control system for Unix (supervisord)