twilio-video.js VS Immer

A good example of this is twilio-video, a JavaScript library that lets you add real time voice and video to your web applications (like Zoom). In this library, The Room always instantiates as an empty room. The class keeps a pointer to a LocalParticipant, (when you join a video chat room you are the LocalParticipant on your screen) but the LocalParticipant doesn't actually run or become instantiated yet until it connects and is finished subscribing to the room which is only possible in running code.

Their core objects like Participant implements this pattern extensively which enable consumers of the api to create an event driven video chat experiences in their apps.

Hi. I'm still digging, but in the meantime I think it's worth registering an issue at https://github.com/twilio/twilio-video.js/issues

twillo summary issue https://github.com/twilio/twilio-video.js/issues/941

Immer is a lightweight package that simplifies working with immutable states. Immutable data structures ensure efficient data change detection, making it easier to track modifications. Additionally, they enable cost-effective cloning by sharing unchanged parts of a data tree in memory.

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It looks like it’s mutating, but both the reducers and update() uses immer* under the hood, so we still respect immutability under the hood.

Cami supports redux devtools so you can use that for time-travel debugging too!

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* https://github.com/immerjs/immer

I heard that immutability libraries like immer.js [0] help with this. Anyone go this way and had good success? Is this 'the way'?

[0]: https://immerjs.github.io/immer/

So, that's what we built, and we built it in the most obvious way — using JavaScript Proxy objects to track mutations and reflect those changes across Appsmith’s framework. Initially things looked good — it worked, aside from a few hacks to make some data types work with map and set, and we were following the example of other projects that had similar requirements. If it was good enough for them, it should be good enough for us, right?

But is immer really the ultimate answer? The performance problem of immer is more prominent in large arrays and deep-level object scenarios. See this issue description, many authors in the community began to try to make breakthroughs, and noticed that structura and mutative, I found that it is indeed many times faster than immer as they said, but it still fails to solve the problem of both fast speed and good development experience. I will analyze the two issues in detail below.

I like immer for this kind of thing: https://github.com/immerjs/immer

It gives you immutable updates without getting bogged down in FP abstractions.

I've always been a huge fan of immer for these case. For your code, it would simply turn into setGridData((prev) => produce(prev, draft => applyChanges(changes, draft)) but I recommend you go over their documentation to fully understand how it works

If you're trying to make things actually immutable, Object.freeze and deep copies can clutter things up pretty good, have you considered using something like immer? (https://immerjs.github.io/immer/)