TOAST UI Editor VS notabase

If you need a WYSIWYG markdown editor you can try Toast UI Editor or simply use Markdown Live add-on for Visual Studio Code

- Toast UI Editor: https://ui.toast.com/tui-editor

https://github.com/nhn/tui.editor Might be close to what you are after.

Can you elaborate a bit more on this part, please?

> I'm thinking of building a text-annotation based app _alone in my spare time_. The core usage loop is about viewing and interacting with "visual markup" applied to a body of text. So lots of tooltips/hoverbars I guess.

Or show us a mockup... doesn't have to be anything fancy, just like a pen and paper sketch or a simple Figma.

I'm asking because it kinda sounds like you're wanting to do something like an online IDE or Google Docs, where you're manipulating a body of text in the style of a rich text editor. If that's the case, it's possible the HTML DOM model isn't quite the right fit for you... you may find it better to abstract over a Canvas or WebGL object instead of trying to shoehorn that experience into the raw DOM. That way you have full control over rendering, outside of the normal layout/styling/rendering loop. It might also make a good case for a single-page app (at least the majority of the editor itself would be, and the other stuff -- marketing, blog, etc. -- can be routed to individual pages).

In that case, it wouldn't be so much a question of "framework" in the sense of React, Vue, etc., which traditionally work on the DOM. It might be more a question of "engine", like whether to use something like PixiJS to manipulate the graphics layer vs rolling your own. State management can be done with something like Redux (even without React), or if you choose to use a frontend framework for the rest of it, you can maybe use their state solution with your rendering engine.

In addition to choosing a low-level graphics lib, you can also look at some existing rich text markup solutions. A CMS I used had a good blog post on this: https://www.datocms.com/docs/structured-text/dast#datocms-ab... along with their open-source editor: https://github.com/datocms/structured-text

A more widespread one is the toast UI editor: https://ui.toast.com/tui-editor

I know you're not just working in Markdown, but these give you an idea of what it's like to work with complex text trees in JS.

Once you have the actual text editor part figured out, choosing the wrapper around it (again, just for marketing pages, etc.) is relatively trivial compared to the difficulty of your editor app. I really like Next.js myself (if you choose React), but I don't think you could really go wrong with any of the major choices today... React/Vue/Svelte/etc. And it looks to me like the complexity of your site wouldn't really be around that anyway, but the editor portion.

Lastly: I don't think ANY JS tool or package is going to be maintained in 10 years. Frankly, 2 years is a long time in the JS ecosystem :( I'm not defending this phenomenon, I hate it too, but that's the reality of it. If long-term maintenance is a goal of yours, you might want to consider writing abstraction layers over third-party tools you use, so you can easily swap them out when future things come out (because they will). The web itself is changing too fast for libraries to keep up; instead, people just write new ones every few years. An example of this is the pathway from the Canvas to WebGL to workers to WASM (and how to juggle heavy computational vs rendering loops around)... a lot of the old Canvas-based renderers, which were super powerful in their time, are now too slow vs the modern alternatives. Nobody is going to port the old stuff over, they just make new libs. It's likely that trend will continue in the JS world (that whatever you write today will be obsoleted by a new web API in a few years).

Lastly, as an aside, TypeScript is a superset of JS... if you find a JS project/lib/plugin that you want to use, there will often be types for it made by the community (https://github.com/DefinitelyTyped/DefinitelyTyped) , or you can write your own types for it. I don't really have an opinion about TypeScript vs writing in some other language and compiling to JS, but it would probably be easier to find help (especially frontend) in the future if you stick with TypeScript instead of convoluting your stack with multiple languages. Sounds like most of your app will be clientside anyway with limited backend needs.

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Tech aside... have you considered partnering with a frontend dev for this? I know you said "alone", but just having someone set up the basic skeleton of such an app with you for the first month or two could be super helpful. Or a UX person to help you with some of the interactions before you start serious coding. They don't have to be with you the whole journey, but maybe they can help jumpstart your project so you can then work on adding features & polish in your spare time, instead of figuring out basic architecture? Unless, of course, that's the part you actually enjoy. In that case, don't let anyone rob of you that :)

Have fun! Sounds like a cool project.

I think the Toast UI Editor can achieve what you want, and it does a pretty good job at that. Is built upon ProseMirror. Won't be a lot else out there since it's actually quite a hard thing to achieve once you get into the detail.

Ideas to add: - add markdown editor that works via plain JS - ability from UI to rollback to previous note version (git checkout) - Ability to create directories for notes

To make it as brief as possible, this post will only deal with some of the issues that you might encounter while implementing ToastUI Editor inside Next.JS projects.

ToastUI (https://ui.toast.com/tui-editor), which builds on ProseMirror, was really easy to set up and has been very stable for us. It's a WYSIWYG editor that just renders markdown, which is what we wanted to have as the base representation for written content so we have some portability later depending on how our product evolves.

https://notabase.io - a note-taking app for networked thinking.

It supports page stacking, linked references, block references, a graph view, and all that good stuff. Think of it as similar to Roam Research / Obsidian.

It's also open source so you can self-host it. Here's the code: https://github.com/churichard/notabase

I'm hoping to add support for shareable links soon. Open to other ideas or feedback!

you can check out this page https://alternativeto.net/software/joplin/?platform=online but the best I could find are - https://www.taskade.com/ https://standardnotes.com/ https://notesnook.com/ https://bundlednotes.com/ https://diaroapp.com/ https://notabase.io/ https://boostnote.io/ etc.

When evaluating rich text editors for the note-taking app I started about a year ago (https://notabase.io), I ended up going with Slate because of its flexible schema and customizable plugin architecture.

I sort of regret that choice now. I ran into a lot of bugs when integrating it which I had to manually work around; issues go months without being addressed; and there still isn't good cross-platform support, especially for Android. With a more active contributor base, Slate could be a fantastic library, but I get the feeling that it's in maintenance mode now, with not many major changes in the past year and a v1.0 still far in the future.

Tiptap looks like it might be a good choice now, but I find it off-putting that I can't insert links in the demo editor on Tiptap's website (https://tiptap.dev), especially for my use case (a note-taking app whose core concept revolves around links).

I'm working on an open source note-taking app called Notabase [1]. It's built primarily for my use - I just never liked most existing note-taking apps and wanted to make one that fit the way that I think. I made it open source [2] so other people can build on top of my ideas, and released a hosted version so that other people can use it if they like it. It would be nice if other people found it helpful, but regardless it's something that I intrinsically enjoy working on.

[1]: https://notabase.io

You can try Notabase https://notabase.io/, which is better for self-hosting.

if you prefer mdSilo, need to toggle the Offline mode false in code and use the third-part services: vercel and supabase