test-runner VS penpot

> I had to Grok Integrant again because I wouldn't understand my project otherwise.

You can use plain functions and `reduce` for system composition if you want. Take a look at how Biff does it: https://biffweb.com/p/thinking-about-system-composition/

DI should be used sparingly for the top-level, stateful pieces of your system. If you can't understand your program without it, is this a problem with Clojure itself or the design of the program?

> And when it comes to best practices around unit testing, it's another one of those things where no one in the community seems to be sharing much about it.

The `clojure.test` API has stayed the same for the last decade and that's what you'll see in most projects. Is the concern about how to run tests? Both of the following libraries work well:

Minimal test runner: https://github.com/cognitect-labs/test-runner

:aliases {:test {:extra-paths ["test"] :extra-deps {io.github.cognitect-labs/test-runner {:git/url "https://github.com/cognitect-labs/test-runner.git" :git/sha "8c3f22363d63715de4087b038d79ae0de36a3263"}} :main-opts ["-m" "cognitect.test-runner"] :exec-fn cognitect.test-runner.api/test}}

Cognitect's test-runner is probably the most commonly used approach with deps.edn and the CLI: https://github.com/cognitect-labs/test-runner

Imagine designers and coders working seamlessly together. That's what Penpot aims to do. It's a tool where designers can create stunning designs, interactive prototypes, and design systems at scale. Developers then have ready-to-use code, which makes their workflows faster and more efficient. Penpot's latest version receives a new grid CSS layout, new UI, new components system, and more components. Oh and there's now light AND dark mode 🎉.

This is how I see things also. Clojure is extremely practical and naturally attracts people that want to ship products.

The "Figma OSS Alternative" post that's also on the HN homepage right now doesn't mention Clojure anywhere (no comments about it either!), but Penpot is clearly also yet another app successfully shipped using Clojure: https://github.com/penpot/penpot

Really neat. I was mainly curious to know when they are planning to release the self hosted docker versions of Penpot 2.0. Looks like its coming in the next couple days hopefully [1].

[1]: https://github.com/penpot/penpot/issues/4380

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A colleague had a quick presentation on Penpot[1] a few weeks back. Was a real contender I think.

[1]: https://penpot.app/