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The Tug-of-War over Server-Side WebAssembly
Further down that GitHub issue, it mentions the problem has been fixed:
* https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/71871#issuecomment-...
* https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/79998
Weirdly though, there's another issue (opened prior) that's ongoing and seems to indicate things aren't fixed after all:
* https://github.com/rustwasm/team/issues/291
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Rust mod team resignation
As for all the rust-wasm stuff, the dispute makes little sense. The "opposition" wants her to transfer publishing rights to a Github group actively being sunsetted and portraying it as a power struggle, yet this struggle is taking place in an issue Williams started in an effort to transfer ownership. Based on the last comments, it looks like publishing rights have been distributed to other members so the whole narrative is effectively moot.
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rust / emscripten / wasm / opengl / sdl2 / porting..
I don't have direct WebAssembly experience (So far, my projects have either required stuff not compatible with WASI or been DOM-centric "must degrade gracefully with JavaScript disabled" stuff) but this thread looks like a good starting point for answering that question.
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The Tug-of-War over Server-Side WebAssembly
The other day I came across an interesting "alternative" to WASM which gives you OS portability using fully native code, without CPU portability, the latter seeming not that big of a deal these days anyway as cross compilers have got quite good and there are only two CPU archs in wide usage anyway.
The idea is to simply run normal Linux binaries on macOS and Windows. How? You create a virtual machine using the Mac/Windows APIs without any OS inside, in fact without even any virtual hardware. It's literally just a new address space and some trivial min-viable VM configuration. Then you map the ELF binary and a ld.so into the VM with a minimal ELF interpreter, kick off execution and anytime there's a syscall you trap it and translate to the host OS syscalls. It can work quite well on macOS because the syscall interface is so similar.
Note that this sort of VM is not:
• A sandbox
• A hardware abstraction
Apps run this way hold all their data in the filing system of the host OS, they use the network stack of the host OS, etc. The VM is only being used to allow trapping and emulation of the syscall interface. The app isn't aware that it's being run in a special CPU mode on top of an emulated kernel.
Advantages: lightweight, simple, apps can use all CPU features, can run at native speed, the Linux syscall interface is highly stable, based on POSIX specifications and you can easily pick a subset of it to standardize.
Disadvantages: requires the emulator, apps exposed to missing features or quirks of the host OS e.g. Windows file system performance is much lower than Linux.
WSL1 sort of worked that way, albeit without the VM aspect that lets userspace apps do it. They abandoned it partly for performance reasons and users expected all existing Linux apps to just work. But WASM doesn't target existing apps. It expects developers to bend and do things the WASM way, and accepts that not all apps are compatible with it, so that's not necessarily a problem.
An example of how to implement this is NOAH:
https://github.com/linux-noah/noah/
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Lima: Linux-on-Mac (“macOS Subsystem for Linux”, “Containerd for Mac”)
There was an attempt, but it was archived https://github.com/linux-noah/noah
What are some alternatives?
wasi-threads
lima - Linux virtual machines, with a focus on running containers
TSC - The Node.js Technical Steering Committee
HomeBrew - 🍺 The missing package manager for macOS (or Linux)
browser_wasi_shim - A WASI shim for in the browser
Docker-OSX - Run macOS VM in a Docker! Run near native OSX-KVM in Docker! X11 Forwarding! CI/CD for OS X Security Research! Docker mac Containers.
hangover - Hangover runs simple Win32 applications on arm64 Linux
yabai - A tiling window manager for macOS based on binary space partitioning
workers-wasi
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