svd2nim VS micronucleus

Compare svd2nim vs micronucleus and see what are their differences.

svd2nim

Convert CMSIS ARM SVD files to nim register memory mappings (by EmbeddedNim)

micronucleus

ATTiny usb bootloader with a strong emphasis on bootloader compactness. (by micronucleus)
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svd2nim micronucleus
7 3
17 1,634
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4.5 2.5
4 months ago 2 months ago
Nim C
MIT License GNU General Public License v3.0 or later
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svd2nim

Posts with mentions or reviews of svd2nim. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-04-23.
  • Memory-mapped IO registers in Zig. (2021)
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 23 Apr 2024
    Nim's maintainer agrees with you I believe, and the API is as you suggest (volatileLoad and volatileStore): https://nim-lang.org/docs/volatile.html

    However, under the hood, Nim compiles to C. So these are macros that typecast to volatile, does the read (or write), then casts back to non-volatile.

    (Small plug for my nim project that is somewhat related to OP: https://github.com/EmbeddedNim/svd2nim)

  • New embedded programming language with C as a host language
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 25 Jul 2022
    C++ has decent industry acceptance in embedded nowadays, or at least that has been my impression.

    After C++, rust is likely the most popular, quite a lot of effort has been put into running rust on embedded, see eg https://github.com/rust-embedded. However, once again to my understanding, industry acceptance is still highly marginal.

    After that, there's a bunch of toy-ish efforts to run other languages. Zig, nim, python and javascript variants, etc. Usually anything that has C ABI compatibility should be possible to get up and running (without writing a compiler backend from scratch). I've had fun with some toy projects using nim for ARM cortex-M targets (https://github.com/EmbeddedNim/svd2nim, https://github.com/auxym/nim-on-samd21, https://github.com/EmbeddedNim/picostdlib).

    Using Nim (and eg svd2nim to generate the equivalent of CMSIS headers for register access in pure nim), it would be entirely possible to write even the low level stuff (SPI drivers and whatnot) in 100% nim, with the same performance as C and better safety (better static type system and compile-time checks, etc). Runtime (eg overflow) checks and garbage collection are available (at the cost of some performance) but optional. See eg. a pretty basic higher-level API for GPIO access, that provides native performance, since the abstraction is implemented as macros (compile-time abstraction): https://github.com/auxym/nim-on-samd21/blob/master/src/port....

  • specify address of a variable
    1 project | /r/nim | 6 Mar 2022
    Any chance your MCU is ARM? If so check out my project to generate the register mappings from CMSIS SVD files: https://github.com/EmbeddedNim/svd2nim
  • Emulator of Original Dell Charger Using ATTINY85
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 24 Feb 2022
    To be clear: Ratel isn't my project, just something I'm following due to interest.

    In the interest of shameless self promotion :), my own experimentations are :

    https://github.com/EmbeddedNim/svd2nim

    https://github.com/auxym/nim-on-samd21

    And I've used and contributed to picostdlib (https://github.com/beef331/picostdlib), the rp2040 support library.

    All just as a hobby, but it's interesting to learn that some companies are actually looking into Nim for firmware! Embedded seems like such a slow moving industry. I believe the author of Nesper and Nephyr also developed them for professional work.

  • Ask HN: What's Your Side Project?
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 12 Nov 2021
  • An Embedded USB Device Stack in Ada
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 Nov 2021
    Many vendors provide svd files which describe the hardware registers. It's possible to convert the svd automatically like they do for C. Here's an example for Nim [1]. Rust has one as well.

    Though I agree that MCU's currently involve a lot of busy work. It's why I'm working on building a nice system building on Zephyr using Nim [2]. It's pretty great to write a few dozen lines of concise memory safe code to do somethinguseful, and then be able to run it on dozens different MCUs.

    It'd be great if there was more Ada core in these systems, as Zephyr is all built in C. At least it's modern clean C and well tested.

    1: https://github.com/EmbeddedNim/svd2nim

  • Writing embedded firmware using Rust
    3 projects | /r/embedded | 27 Sep 2021
    If you're curious, I have this in MVP status at the moment: https://github.com/auxym/svd2nim

micronucleus

Posts with mentions or reviews of micronucleus. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-03-03.
  • Building the worlds jankiest serial to USB cable from scavenged parts
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 3 Mar 2023
    You can actually bit-bang low speed USB on Arduino [0]. There is even a bootloader [1] for ATtiny. It is obviously not compatible with Arduino, but those tiny boards look too cute to ignore [2]. Also, you can use USB port both for downloading firmware and your application.

    [0] https://github.com/obdev/v-usb

    [1] https://github.com/micronucleus/micronucleus

    [2] https://cpldcpu.wordpress.com/2014/04/25/the-nanite-85/

  • Emulator of Original Dell Charger Using ATTINY85
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 24 Feb 2022
    The Digispark[1] and its clones use the ATTINY85 and offer flashing over USB via the Micronucleus bootloader[2] using V-USB[3]. It comes at the cost of a significant chunk of flash storage, but the convenience is excellent. Plus, V-USB support means you can emulate all sorts of USB devices. I've used it to build a DIY NES controller adapter, but it's commonly used as a cheap Rubber Ducky[4]. For projects where USB interfacing makes sense, it can be a good fit.

    1: http://digistump.com/products/1

    2: https://github.com/micronucleus/micronucleus

    3: https://www.obdev.at/products/vusb/index.html

    4: https://shop.hak5.org/products/usb-rubber-ducky-deluxe

  • Writing bootloader to practice programming skills?
    1 project | /r/embedded | 22 Jun 2021
    So it looks like they're using the micronucleus bootloader for the linked example. That bootloader not only does the normal bootloader job, but also acts as a bitbanging USB device in order to communicate with the computer over USB. The USB bitbanging is a huge endeavor to undertake on top of writing a bootloader.

What are some alternatives?

When comparing svd2nim and micronucleus you can also consider the following projects:

rp2040_hal - Ada drivers for the Raspberry Pi RP2040 SoC

HoodLoader2 - 16u2 Bootloader to reprogram 16u2 + 328/2560 with Arduino IDE

probe-run - Run embedded programs just like native ones

cc2538-bsl - Python cross-platform script to upload firmware via the serial boot loader onto the CC13xx, CC2538 and CC26xx SoC.

picostdlib - Nim wrapper for the raspberry pi stdlib

libusb - A cross-platform library to access USB devices

kcgi - minimal CGI and FastCGI library for C/C++

ATTinyCore - Arduino core for ATtiny 1634, 828, x313, x4, x41, x5, x61, x7 and x8

nephyr - Nim wrapper for Zephyr

lk2nd - Secondary little kernel (lk) bootloader for Qualcomm MSM8953 devices

dotfile - Simple version control made for tracking single files