susam.net VS mu

Compare susam.net vs mu and see what are their differences.

susam.net

Source code of https://susam.net/ (by susam)

mu

Soul of a tiny new machine. More thorough tests → More comprehensible and rewrite-friendly software → More resilient society. (by akkartik)
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susam.net mu
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9.0 4.3
7 days ago 5 months ago
Common Lisp Assembly
GNU General Public License v3.0 or later GNU General Public License v3.0 or later
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susam.net

Posts with mentions or reviews of susam.net. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-07-16.
  • How I run my servers
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 16 Jul 2023
    I have a similar setup for my personal and project websites. Some similarities and differences:

    * I use Linode VMs ($5/month).

    * I too use Debian GNU/Linux.

    * The initial configuration of the VM is coded as a shell script: https://github.com/susam/dotfiles/blob/main/linode.sh

    * Project-specific or service-specific configuration is coded as individual Makefiles. This takes care of creatng An example: https://github.com/susam/susam.net/blob/main/Makefile

    * The software is written in Common Lisp. In case of a personal website or blog, a static website is generated by a Common Lisp program. In case of an online service or web application, the service is written as a Common Lisp program that uses Hunchentoot to process HTTP requests and return HTTP responses.

    * I use Nginx too. Nginx serves the static files as well as functions as a reverse proxy when there are backend services involved. Indeed TLS termination is an important benefit it offers. Other benefits include rate limiting requests, configuring an allowlist for HTTP headers to protect the backend service, etc.

  • Ask HN: What tools do you use on your blog in 2023?
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 18 Jan 2023
  • Reasons you aren't updating your personal site (2020)
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 17 Sep 2022
    I began developing personal websites in 2001. It was a time when people like me would develop personal websites just because we could. It didn't matter whether we had something useful to say or if anyone visited the website. All that mattered was that it was fun! I still maintain my website in the same spirit.

    I do share the technical posts from my websites on HN and Reddit hoping to get some feedback but that's not the primary motive. Also, there were no HN and Reddit in 2001. Back then I used to write for myself and I still do so now. My personal website is a way for me to keep an archive of some fun things I know so that my future self can look back at them when needed or desired. Only a few days ago, I added a jokes page[1] to my website just because I thought it would be nice to keep my favourite jokes somewhere easily accessible.

    As years go by, I've found that the friction of editing and publishing new posts or pages to my website has only become less. First came, virtual private servers that swayed me away from shared web hosting solutions. Then came Git which made it incredibly efficient and convenient to keep a change history of my website and sync it to any system. I write my pages in plan HTML using Emacs. Then git add; git commit; make pub [2] and the updated website is published within seconds. A Common Lisp program reads all my HTML pages, adds a common theme and template to them and writes them out to a directory Nginx can read from. It is as low friction as it can get that suits my taste and preferences while maintaining complete flexibility on the website.

    It has been 13 years since I wrote my first "Hello!" and while HTML and web development and publishing has evolved a lot since then, I am still having fun!

    [1] https://susam.net/maze/jokes.html

    [2] https://github.com/susam/susam.net/blob/main/Makefile#L144

  • Lisp for the web: deploying with Systemd, gotchas and solutions
    1 project | /r/lisp | 15 Sep 2022
    form.service (the systemd unit file)
  • Simplicity of IRC
    9 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 9 Jan 2022
    Source code [0] is available on GitHub; looks like they wrote their own simple site generator.

    I've been thinking about something similar (maybe even simpler) for my blog too.

    [0]: https://github.com/susam/susam.net

  • Static site and comment form served dynamically using a tiny Common Lisp web server
    2 projects | /r/Common_Lisp | 9 Sep 2021

mu

Posts with mentions or reviews of mu. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-02-01.
  • Damn Small Linux 2024
    10 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 1 Feb 2024
    Depending on how minimal a distribution you want, a few years ago I had a way to take a single ELF binary created by my computing stack built up from machine code (https://github.com/akkartik/mu) and package it up with just a linux kernel and syslinux (whatever _that_ is) to create a bootable disk image I could then ship to a cloud server (https://akkartik.name/post/iso-on-linode, though I don't use Linode anymore these days) and run on a VPS to create a truly minimal webserver. If this seems at all relevant I'd be happy to answer questions or help out.
  • Ask HN: Good Books on Philosophy of Engineering
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 19 Jan 2024
  • x86-64 Assembly Language Programming with Ubuntu by Ed Jorgensen
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 24 Dec 2023
    This was the thinking behind my https://github.com/akkartik/mu
  • Show HN: FocusedEdit – a classic Macintosh to web browser shared text editor
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 2 Oct 2022
  • Plain Text. With Lines
    12 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 6 Jun 2022
    Yes thank you, I was indeed alluding to https://github.com/akkartik/mu. Perhaps a more precise term would be "software stack".
  • Inferno: A small operating system for building crossplatform distributed systems
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 17 Mar 2022
    I built a computer with its own languages, and I consider it to be _less_ cognitive load when everything is in 1/2/3 languages. I don't have to worry that the next program I want to read the sources will require "Go, Rust, C++, JS/TS, Python, Java, etc."

    There are other metrics to consider besides your notions of cognitive load and productivity. Inferno predates most of the languages on your list. My computer (https://github.com/akkartik/mu) uses custom languages because I was able to design them to minimize total LoC, and to ensure the dependency graph has no cycles (unlike all of the conventional software stack, at least until https://www.gnu.org/software/mes connects up all the dots).

  • Llisp: Lisp in Lisp
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 23 Jan 2022
  • 10 Years Against Division of Labor in Software
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 22 Jan 2022
    "Separation of concerns is a hard-won insight."

    Absolutely. I'm arguing for separating just concerns, without entangling them with considerations of people.

    It's certainly reasonable to consider my projects toy. I consider them research:

    * https://github.com/akkartik/mu

    * https://github.com/akkartik/teliva

    "The idea that projects should take source copies instead of library dependencies is just kind of nuts..."

    The idea that projects should take copies seems about symmetric to me with taking pointers. Call by value vs call by reference. We just haven't had 50 years of tooling to support copies. Where would we be by now if we had devoted equal resources to both branches?

    "...at least for large libraries."

    How are these large libraries going for ya? Log4j wasn't exactly a shining example of the human race at its best. We're trying to run before we can walk.

  • My self-hosting infrastructure, fully automated
    12 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 21 Jan 2022
    I still believe :) I'm looking not for an economic argument but for a strategic one. I think[1] a self-hosted setup with minimal dependencies can be more resilient than a conventional one, whether with a vendor or self-hosted.

    https://sandstorm.io got a lot right. I wish they'd paid more attention to upgrade burdens.

    [1] https://github.com/akkartik/mu

  • My 486 Server
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 16 Jan 2022
    I'm very interested in the network stack, having explored it for a while for https://github.com/akkartik/mu before giving up. What sort of network card do you support?

What are some alternatives?

When comparing susam.net and mu you can also consider the following projects:

maze - Susam's Maze • Main website: https://susam.in/maze/ • Mirror: https://susam.github.io/maze/

cosmopolitan - build-once run-anywhere c library

spcss - A simple, minimal, classless stylesheet for simple HTML pages

mtpng - A parallelized PNG encoder in Rust

docker-rollout - 🚀 Zero Downtime Deployment for Docker Compose

collapseos - Bootstrap post-collapse technology

ts-neural-network - A neural network to play with

mirage - MirageOS is a library operating system that constructs unikernels

The Lounge - 💬 ‎ Modern, responsive, cross-platform, self-hosted web IRC client

librope - UTF-8 rope library for C

blog.johnnyreilly.com - This is the source code for https://johnnyreilly.com

teliva - Fork of Lua 5.1 to encourage end-user programming