starrocks VS vitess

tidb has been around for a while, it is distributed, written in Go and Rust, and MySQL compatible. https://github.com/pingcap/tidb

Somewhat relatedly, StarRocks is also MySQL compatible, written in Java and C++, but it's tackling OLAP use-cases. https://github.com/StarRocks/starrocks

I think you're talking about doing denormalization before importing data into an OLAP system to avoid subsequent joins. However, this greatly limits the flexibility of data modeling. Moreover, denormalization can be a headache-inducing process. In fact, I have tested StarRocks (https://github.com/StarRocks/starrocks), and it is capable of performing joins while streaming data imports, and the speed is very fast. It's worth giving it a try.

https://github.com/apache/doris Is a great example. Same for it's cousin https://github.com/StarRocks/starrocks that was an early fork of the doris project.

To be fair, these are the only examples I can think of and I only learned of these as I'm standing up new data infra using starrocks.

ClickHouseClickHouse and Starrocks are similar. They are both columnar databases powered by vectorization tech, which means they are really fast.

StarRocks, it’s a Linux Foundation project now, but a lot of the initial team and community behind it came from China.

https://github.com/StarRocks/starrocks

Funny that I hadn’t heard of them in the database space till they showed up at the top of ClickBench. Makes me wonder what other interesting projects I’m missing out on in China.

Full disclosure - I work for StarRocks (starrocks.com)

First of all, this is great. Transparent and healthy competition is always great for the customers!

Regarding the joined table queries that are missing in the tests, this is exactly why we built StarRocks - to give people the best performance of complex analytics queries on both joined tables and single tables.

I encourage you to checkout this blog: https://starrocks.medium.com/starrocks-outperforms-clickhous...

And, give us a star if you think we are doing the right thing: https://github.com/StarRocks/starrocks

Follow us on LinkedIn for the latest updates: https://www.linkedin.com/company/starrocks

With Vitess likely merging a lot of its binaries into a single unified binary: https://github.com/vitessio/vitess/issues/7471#issuecomment-...

... it would be a wild future if Vitess replaced the underlying MySQL engine with this as long as the performance is good enough.

Thank you for the compliment!

We recently started adding support for CTEs in Vitess! You can check out https://github.com/vitessio/vitess/pull/14321 if you want to see some technical details of the implementation.

For now, we have added preliminary support by converting them to derived tables internally, but we believe that we need to make CTEs first-class citizens themselves of query planning. Once we make that change, we can look towards supporting recursive CTEs.

This however will take some time, but then, all good things do!

Why would it be a Google project? https://github.com/vitessio/vitess

This is great news. I strolled around https://github.com/vitessio/vitess/issues/12967.

Are there any public discussions of more trade-offs vitess has to make to enable fks?

MySQL + Vitess I noticed Slack gets by using MySQL because they're using Vites. From Slack's post (https://slack.engineering/scaling-datastores-at-slack-with-vitess/) it seems like they choose Vites because it facilitated a smooth transition because it's built on top of MySQL.

This sounds very similar to the connection pooling done by vitess https://vitess.io/.

https://github.com/vitessio/vitess/issues/12967

A lot of this is possible thanks to the magic of Vitess.

"Vitess is a database clustering system for horizontal scaling of MySQL."

https://github.com/vitessio/vitess