solo-forth VS swapforth

Compare solo-forth vs swapforth and see what are their differences.

solo-forth

Standard Forth system for ZX Spectrum 128 and compatible computers, with disk drives. (by programandala-net)

swapforth

Swapforth is a cross-platform ANS Forth (by jamesbowman)
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solo-forth

Posts with mentions or reviews of solo-forth. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-03-17.
  • Zenv: Forth for the ZX Spectrum
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 17 Mar 2024
    I can only compare it with Abersoft Forth on ZX Spectrum. While I admire the Forth implementation in Jupiter Ace a lot, it lacks a lot of basic words. Users can often find them implemented in the manual, but they are not immediately available. 8kB ROM is really on the edge of usability. Jupiter Ace Forth uses an unusual approach to code editing based on decompilation instead of screens, which is closer to how Basic worked. Abersoft Forth was much faster and had better graphics support.

    The modern Solo Forth is worth mentioning too: https://github.com/programandala-net/solo-forth?tab=readme-o...

swapforth

Posts with mentions or reviews of swapforth. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-06-15.
  • Making my own forth implementation
    5 projects | /r/Forth | 15 Jun 2023
  • FPGAs for interpreted programming languages?
    2 projects | /r/FPGA | 25 Nov 2022
  • How many LUT for an 8 bit CPU?
    2 projects | /r/FPGA | 11 Nov 2022
    Thanks! Found the port of this to the board I want :) https://github.com/jamesbowman/swapforth/tree/master/j1a
  • The RISC Deprogrammer
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 28 Oct 2022
    It's a standard thing to do in EE curricula; you normally do it in a one-semester class, and there are literally thousands of open-source synthesizable CPU cores on GitHub now.

    To take two examples to show that designing a CPU is less work than writing a novel:

    - Chuck Thacker's "A Tiny Computer", fairly similar to the Nova, is a page and a half of synthesizable Verilog; it runs at 66 MHz in 200 LUTs of a Virtex-5: https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~swm11/examples/bluespec/Tiny3/Thac...

    - James Bowman's J1A is more like Chuck Moore's MuP21 and is about three pages of synthesizable Verilog: https://github.com/jamesbowman/swapforth/blob/master/j1a/ver... and https://github.com/jamesbowman/swapforth/blob/master/j1a/ver.... You can build it with Claire Wolf's iCEStorm (yosys, etc.) and run it on any but Lattice's tiniest FPGAs; it takes up 1162 4-input LUTs.

    I haven't quite done it myself. Last time I played https://nandgame.com/ it took me a couple of hours to play through the hardware design levels. But that's not really "design" in the sense of defining the instruction set (which is also kind of Nova-like), thinking through state machine design, and trying different pipeline depths; you're mostly just doing the kind of logic minimization exercises you'd normally delegate to yosys.

    In https://github.com/kragen/calculusvaporis I designed a CPU instruction set, wrote a simulator for it, wrote and tested some simple programs, designed a CPU at the RTL level, and sketched out gate-level logic designs to get an estimate of how big it would be. But I haven't simulated the RTL to verify it, written it down in an HDL, or breadboarded the circuit, so I'm reluctant to say that this qualifies as "designing a single CPU" either.

  • The J1 Forth CPU
    1 project | /r/Forth | 13 Jan 2021
    Also worth checking is the Swapforth Github repository.

What are some alternatives?

When comparing solo-forth and swapforth you can also consider the following projects:

gforth - Gforth mirror on GitHub (original is on Savannah)

arkam - A Simple Stack VM and Forth

zeptoforth - A not-so-small Forth for Cortex-M

lbForth - Self-hosting metacompiled Forth, bootstrapping from a few lines of C; targets Linux, Windows, ARM, RISC-V, 68000, PDP-11, asm.js.

subleq - 16-bit SUBLEQ CPU running eForth - just for fun

durexforth - Modern C64 Forth

gforth-raylib - Raylib 3.5 bindings for Gforth. The name is backwards for obvious reasons.

elfort - A Forth metacompiler that directly emits an executable binary for x86-64 Linux written in Arkam

calculusvaporis - A tiny CPU

nasmjf - NASM port of JONESFORTH!

discussion - Discussion repository for Forth enthusiasts.