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ryo-modal
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Ask HN: Best way to experiment with text text editing?
To build on what others are saying about Emacs, if you start exploring the package ecosystem, you're going to see quite a lot of really interesting packages that are related to improving/experimenting with the UX of editing text. While I'm not endorsing anyone in particular, I think what this list does show is just how easy it is to do pretty much whatever you want in Emacs;
https://karthinks.com/software/avy-can-do-anything/
https://github.com/jyp/boon
https://github.com/clemera/objed
https://github.com/jmorag/kakoune.el
https://github.com/meow-edit/meow/
https://github.com/xahlee/xah-fly-keys
https://github.com/Kungsgeten/ryo-modal
https://github.com/emacsorphanage/god-mode
Emacs 29 also now has treesitter and LSP mode integration built-in, a compilation mode, a comint mode for REPLs, excellent file browsing packages (I use dired/dirvish), and a few other killer features.
Now, if what you truly dislike are "quirky editors", prepare yourself for a world of hurt because vanilla Emacs departs quite a bit from "modern" text editors. I struggled with this for a while, but eventually by buying into the paradigm, I now feel that when emacs try emulating "modern" IDE features like autocompletion, LSP, and DAP UI, I feel like it's a regression, not a progression. The point here is that you might have an "idea" of what good initial UX and lack of quirks would look like, but Emacs might change the way you think.
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Evil keybinding for emacs from scratch
If it's the latter and you're looking for a way to set up vim/evil like keybindings yourself (separate links for each), Modalka, RYO-modal, and Meow (and probably a few dozen others 'cause emacs) allow you to do that.
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Nested/conditional keybindings to navigate in text
You can write custom commands that wrap a little bit of logic around the standard movement commands. Or another option would be to look at ryo-modal or meow.
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How to get doom emacs keybindings?
Along with General, you can take a look at some other packages for keybindings and modal editing. A good option is RollYourOwn Modal mode. In the documentation there, it also lists several other packages with pre-defined bindings. Xah-Fly-Keys is specifically designed for ergonomics and may be interesting to explore.
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Why not use Evil in 2022?
Because you can roll your own modal mode. This particular approach will make the experience convenient in the way you actually prefer (Emacs' extensibility at its finest) and it'll allow you to slowly move towards the modal editing if it happens to be convenient for you.
- Lapce
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"I'll just install EVIL"
Similar to Meow is ryo-modal. What I like about ryo-modal is that it is completely unopinionated and does nothing by default, and instead just provides the tools to make your own modal editing system.
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Layer keys
I was thinking that combining this functionality with something like ryo-modal could make for a very satisfying and efficient modal keybind system. However, it doesn't seem like there's any ready made way to do this in Emacs.
- Think which-key update breaks ryo-modal
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How to make ryo-modal not insert the non-mapped keys?
ryo-modal is a package for creating modal keymaps. I want to test it, but I need a little help.
xah-fly-keys
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Software development is not carpentry. Almost everything a developer writes is unique, they have never built that particular thing before. We are not cabinet makers repeating a variation of something we've built hundreds of times before.
lol no xah-fly-keys
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Ask HN: Best way to experiment with text text editing?
To build on what others are saying about Emacs, if you start exploring the package ecosystem, you're going to see quite a lot of really interesting packages that are related to improving/experimenting with the UX of editing text. While I'm not endorsing anyone in particular, I think what this list does show is just how easy it is to do pretty much whatever you want in Emacs;
https://karthinks.com/software/avy-can-do-anything/
https://github.com/jyp/boon
https://github.com/clemera/objed
https://github.com/jmorag/kakoune.el
https://github.com/meow-edit/meow/
https://github.com/xahlee/xah-fly-keys
https://github.com/Kungsgeten/ryo-modal
https://github.com/emacsorphanage/god-mode
Emacs 29 also now has treesitter and LSP mode integration built-in, a compilation mode, a comint mode for REPLs, excellent file browsing packages (I use dired/dirvish), and a few other killer features.
Now, if what you truly dislike are "quirky editors", prepare yourself for a world of hurt because vanilla Emacs departs quite a bit from "modern" text editors. I struggled with this for a while, but eventually by buying into the paradigm, I now feel that when emacs try emulating "modern" IDE features like autocompletion, LSP, and DAP UI, I feel like it's a regression, not a progression. The point here is that you might have an "idea" of what good initial UX and lack of quirks would look like, but Emacs might change the way you think.
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Is the dygma raise right for me?
Another consideration is that some editors make heavy use of key chords, which aren't so ergo friendly. Emacs in particular is notorious with how it uses the Ctrl key. I highly recommend switching to an editor with modal keybindings like NeoVim, or alternatively, your existing editor may have a Vim keybindings mode or extension. For instance Emacs has Evil mode and xah-fly-keys. Another route to circumventing chords is you can use one-shot modifiers (aka sticky modifiers) or define macros.
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Home row mods for sequences and Emacs
More radically, you might find a modal interface easier and more comfortable to use with HRMs, like Vim's, or staying within Emacs, using Evil mode or Xah fly keys.
- xah-fly-keys: the most efficient keybinding for emacs
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Share Your 'other-window' Commands
I use xah-fly-keys. In command mode, on a QWERTY keyboard, the comma key moves the cursor to the next window.
- Anyone tried a heavily customized key-map for evil mode?
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∑ Xah Code
> Long love ergomacs!
I recently stumbled over, and started using (and modifying) Xah's "xah-fly-keys" emacs bindings, which are a somewhat more radical implementation of the ideas behind ergoemacs (e.g. use Emacs without any "chording", i.e. without ever having to press two keys at once apart from shift+letter).
[1] https://github.com/xahlee/xah-fly-keys
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Replace (almost) all your programs with emacs!
*xah-fly-keys
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Optimal layout for vim
I made it myself, but it was largely inspired by "xah fly keys": https://github.com/xahlee/xah-fly-keys
What are some alternatives?
meow - Yet another modal editing on Emacs / 猫态编辑
modalka - Modal editing your way
evil-collection - A set of keybindings for evil-mode
kakoune.el - A very simple simulation of the kakoune editor inside of emacs.
spacemacs - A community-driven Emacs distribution - The best editor is neither Emacs nor Vim, it's Emacs *and* Vim!
emacs.d - Personal Emacs configurations
kmonad - An advanced keyboard manager
emacs-baboon - My new Emacs config with use-package
kmonad - An advanced keyboard manager [Moved to: https://github.com/kmonad/kmonad]
.emacs.d - My current Emacs setup.