RxDB VS holochain

I'm interested in this problem also!

I think there is a large overlap with projects that market/focus on offline-first experiences.

AFAIK this problem can be solved by:

1) Considering a client-side copy of the database that gets synced with the remote DB. This is an approach [PowerSync](https://www.powersync.com/) and [ElectricSql](https://electric-sql.com/) and [rxdb](https://rxdb.info/) take!

Hey, after I posted that, I went and gave a second look online to see if I could find something that would allow me to develop a local-first app with offline persistence and syncing capabilities.

I ended up finding some possibilities out there that could potentially help me build stuff. One of them is RxDB [1], which offers WebRTC syncing - you'd still need a signaling server, I suppose, but all sensitive information could be synced E2E-encrypted via WebRTC.

Then there's CRDT's [2], which is a universe that turned out to have multiple possibilities that match (at least partially) my needs. In particular, the next thing I want to take a look at is cr-sqlite [3], which might be just thing I needed to kick-off some side-projects.

I'm posting here cause I just found some hope of not needing to build a traditional client-server app and having to deal with all the hassle involved in securing a server (and with fear that my efforts could be not good enough), and I thought someone else could benefit from getting to know these things.

[1] https://rxdb.info/

About a year ago, I discovered a cool offline-first framework called RxDB. Initially, I thought that on the frontend side, this was exactly what I had been searching for over the past years. After tinkering around and even using it in production for some time, I realized that it wasn't well-suited for my intended use. RxDB was initially created as an RxJS layer for PouchDB with a server replication interface. Over time, other storage types besides PouchDB were introduced (e.g., IndexedDB, SQLite) and the replication interface became more sophisticated. The replication interface is really cool and exactly what I wanted. The biggest problem I have with RxDB is that it is so tightly coupled with RxJS. While RxJS is technically very powerful, it offers a dreadful developer experience. It's really hard to understand at first and integrating it into an existing codebase, which isn't using RxJS, is tedious.

Congrats to the team. Once I’ve tried https://rxdb.info/ and it wasn’t funny at all to do the remote replication (PG) and to deal with conflicts. I do need to check this out!

RxDB (Open Source but paid plugins)

It’s been in the works for a few years, and recently reached its beta-rc stage. There’s a quick scaffolding tool, a Typescript client, Rust client (being updated), integration with Nix, Rust and Typescript testing suites, a Tauri-based launcher, an Electron template, etc. It can even be deployed in a cloud instance if you wish. There’s a pretty passionate community on Discord. The Open Source Initiative even approved the Cryptographic Autonomy License specifically for Holochain apps.

Holochain is a framework for building Peer-to-Peer apps. Everyone can make their own app which utilizes Holochain. Holochain is build by the Holochain Foundation as an Open Source project, i.e. the source code is openly available on Github and you can use and modify it as you wish. Other than providing and developing the framework, the Holochain Foundation will have no control over any part of the app you build. The Foundation also cannot control which apps are built using Holochain. It does not have any governance power in this regard.

I have been thinking about architectural models for making our application distributed, such as Holochain and Gun.eco.

I'm curious about future potential synergies between Holochain ( https://github.com/holochain/holochain ) and the Cosmos ecosystem, considering the consensus engine (under development : https://github.com/cosmos/cosmos-rust/tree/main/cosmrs ), the Interchain Blockchain Protocol ( https://github.com/informalsystems/ibc-rs ) and the smart contacts module (https://github.com/CosmWasm/cosmwasm ) exist in Rust.

are running encrypted app code for them so that they can take part in the app/network, without having the required technical chops (the holofuel currency measures processing power). the FAQ does a good job of explaining it a bit more: https://holo.host/faq/

i'm not super interested in the whole holo thing (they sold holofuel hosting credits). i am glad they did it because it meant the team could ramp up development.

about the marx and engels thing. i am most excited about the potential for http://valueflo.ws on top of holochain [3], because it will allow us to move away from today's Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) software, into a new paradigm of Network Resource Planning (ERP) software, that i hope will have a big impact on supply chains of the next economy (socialist).

[1] https://github.com/holochain/holochain

[2] https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/holo-take-back-the-intern...

[3] https://github.com/holo-rea/holo-rea

Harmony One & Holochain

Hey y'all. I've been bouncing ideas around in my skull for how to implement a peer-to-peer / distributed / decentralized / serverless game backend, mostly for the lulz, the what-if's, and the is-it-even-possible's. It would run over a p2p distributed database, peer validation, encryption/signing, based on Holochain, and would include a form of distributed ECS for managing "server" logic.

> It would force the global north to actually build what it's consuming instead of extracting rents from intellectual property. That won't happen.

Oh fuck yes it will happen! Come join us at:

https://futureeconomiesreadinggroup.github.io

http://valueflo.ws

http://holochain.org

...and a bunch of other DWeb projects (many are listed/named in my comment history).