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runtimelab
- Green Thread Experiment in .NET
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Is .NET just miles ahead or am I delusional?
There was a "green thread" experiment for dotnet a while ago, here is the conclusion: https://github.com/dotnet/runtimelab/issues/2398
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Why choose async/await over threads?
Experiment result write-up: https://github.com/dotnet/runtimelab/blob/e69dda51c7d796b812...
TLDR: The green threads experiment was a failure as it found (expected and obvious) issues that the Java applications are now getting to enjoy, joining their Go colleagues, while also requiring breaking changes. It, however, gave inspiration to subsequent re-examination of current async/await implementation and whether it can be improved by moving state machine generation and execution away from IL completely to runtime. It was a massive success as evidenced by preliminary overhead estimations in the results.
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Garnet โ A new remote cache-store from Microsoft Research
Yeah, it kind of is. There are quite a few of experiments that are conducted to see if they show promise in the prototype form and then are taken further for proper integration if they do.
Unfortunately, object stack allocation was not one of them even though DOTNET_JitObjectStackAllocation configuration knob exists today, enabling it makes zero impact as it almost never kicks in. By the end of the experiment[0], it was concluded that before investing effort in this kind of feature becomes profitable given how a lot of C# code is written, there are many other lower hanging fruits.
To contrast this, in continuation to green threads experiment, a runtime handled tasks experiment[1] which moves async state machine handling from IL emitted by Roslyn to special-cased methods and then handling purely in runtime code has been a massive success and is now being worked on to be integrated in one of the future version of .NET (hopefully 10?)
[0] https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/issues/11192
[1] https://github.com/dotnet/runtimelab/blob/feature/async2-exp...
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Java virtual threads hit with pinning issue
Unlike these folks from dotnet, which tested directly on ASP for real workload
https://github.com/dotnet/runtimelab/issues/2398?darkschemeovr=1
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Ask HN: Do we have evidence that green threading is faster than OS threads?
[1] https://github.com/dotnet/runtimelab/issues/2398
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JEP Draft โ Derived Record Creation (Preview) โ Java
The only way to avoid it is to not build on top of Java or not adding any features on top of Java.
> To give another example with C#, there has been a lot of recent discussion about finding potential alternatives to their async-await concurrency model. They cite the level of effort it takes to maintain the async await style code and the costs that come from this.
I had a very different take-away. They did PoC with virtual threads and decided it's not worth the switch now and async-await that they have is good enough.
https://github.com/dotnet/runtimelab/issues/2398
> Some of the languages it gets compared too aren't even that old yet.
C# is old enough to drink and Scala just had its 20th birthday this week :)
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.NET 8 โ .NET Blog
It was tried and the dotnet team decided to drop it: https://github.com/dotnet/runtimelab/issues/2398
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.NET Green Thread Experiment Results
Technical details here: https://github.com/dotnet/runtimelab/blob/feature/green-thre...
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Thread-per-Core
Just last month .NET ended a green threading experiment, mainly because the overhead it adds to FFI was too high:
https://github.com/dotnet/runtimelab/issues/2398
Rust had green threads until late 2014, and they were removed because of their impact on performance.
Everyone has done the basic research: green threading is a convenient abstraction that comes with certain performance trade offs. It doesn't work for the kind of profile that Rust is trying to target.
JDK
- Intel submitted OpenJDK PRs for supporting new 64 bit general purpose registers
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Show HN: I Built a Java IDE for iPad
I felt out of the loop, thinking that Zero VM was some kind of new distro for OpenJDK but chasing <https://packages.debian.org/sid/openjdk-22-jre-zero#:~:text=...> to <https://sources.debian.org/src/openjdk-11/11.0.23%2B9-1/debi...> lead me to https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/tree/jdk-22-ga/src/hotspot/cp...
It seems that it's a specific CPU target for the Hotspot JIT for non-mainstream architectures (or for research purposes, as I saw mentioned once)
- JEP draft: Exception handling in switch
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Java 23: The New Features Are Officially Announced
Completely gutted from the OpenJDK, last I checked. See here for the culprit PR: https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/pull/18688
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macOS 14.4 might break Java on your machine
> Yes, they're changing one aspect of signal handler use to work around this problem. They're not stopping the use of signal handlers in general. Hotspot continues to use signals for efficiency in general. See https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/9059727df135dc90311bd476...
This whole thread is about SIGSEGV, and specifically their SIGSEGV handling. However, catching normal signals is not about efficiency.
Some of their exception handling is still odd: There is no reason for a program that receives SIGILL to ever attempt continuing. But others is fine, like catching SIGFPE to just forward an exception to the calling code.
(Sure, you could construct an argument to say that this is for efficiency if you considered the alternative to be implementing floating point in software so that all exceptions exist in user-space, but hardware floating point is the norm and such alternative would be wholly unreasonable.)
> The wonderful thing about choosing not to care about facts is having whatever opinions you want.
I appreciate the irony of you making such statement, proudly thinking that your opinion equals fact, and therefore any other opinion is not.
This discussion is nothing but subjective opinion vs. subjective opinion. Facts are (hopefully, as I can only speak for myself) inputs to both our opinions, but no opinion about "good" or "bad", "nasty" or not can ever be objective. Objective code quality does not exist.
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The Return of the Frame Pointers
I remember talking to Brendan about the PreserveFramePointer patch during my first months at Netflix in 2015. As of JDK 21, unfortunately it is no longer a general purpose solution for the JVM, because it prevents a fast path being taken for stack thawing for virtual threads: https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/d32ce65781c1d7815a69ceac...
- JDK-8180450: secondary_super_cache does not scale well
- The One Billion Row Challenge
- AVX2 intrinsics for Arrays.sort methods (int, float arrays)
- A gentle introduction to two's complement
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