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py4cl
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Need recommendation for IPC with Go
py4cl and cl4py rely on uiop:launch-program and python's subprocess respectively. These are portable to the extent uiop and subprocess are portable and do not require any additional installation.
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Lisp-Stick on a Python
If you want to use Python libs from CL, see py4cl: https://github.com/bendudson/py4cl the other way around, calling your efficient CL library from Python: https://github.com/marcoheisig/cl4py/ There might be more CL libraries than you think! https://github.com/CodyReichert/awesome-cl (or at least a project sufficiently advanced on your field to join forces ;) )
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The German School of Lisp (2011)
FYI you can call Python from CL: https://github.com/bendudson/py4cl and CL from Python: https://github.com/marcoheisig/cl4py/
If you don't know Emacs, see other editors: https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook/editor-support.ht... If you want the more Smalltalk-like experience I'd go with the free LispWorks version: it has many GUI panes that allow to watch and discover the state of the program.
I personally couldn't stay long with Hylang. You won't get CL niceties: more language features, performance, standalone binaries, interactive debugger (all the niceties of an image-based development)…
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Plotting
I ended up using a fair bit of matplotlib through college and with colleagues. I too don't want to use python, but I also don't like throwing away its libraries, and I'm too lazy to invest in other* plotting ecosystems. In effect, I use up using matplotlib through py4cl/2.
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numericals - Performance of NumPy with the goodness of Common Lisp
Note that it is not my aim to replace the python ecosystem; I think that is far too lofy a goal to be of any good. My original intention was to interoperate with python through py4cl/2 or the likes, but felt that one needs a Common Lisp library for "small" operations, while "large" operations can be offloaded to python libraries through py4cl/2.
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Good Lisp libraries for math
If performance is absolutely not a concern, then third option is using python libraries through py4cl/2. To put it differently, if calling python from lisp is not the bottleneck, then this is a feasible option.
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Why Hy?
I encourage people to try out Common Lisp because, unlike with Hy, you will get: speed, ability to build binaries, truly interactive image-based development (yes, more interactive than ipython), more static type checks, more language features (no closures in Hy last time I checked), language stability… To reach to Python libs, you have https://github.com/bendudson/py4cl My comparison of Python and CL: https://lisp-journey.gitlab.io/pythonvslisp/
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Tutorial Series to learn Common Lisp quickly
> Not sure if such a thing already exists for CL
couple of solutions exist for this
https://github.com/bendudson/py4cl
https://github.com/pinterface/burgled-batteries
- Calling Python from Common Lisp
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(define (uwu) (display "nya~\n"))
Ahh, makes sense. Well, if you ever wanna steal some of python's thunder, libpython-clj worked great for me lol. Supposedly py4cl fills a similar role in Common Lisp.
hy
- A dialect of Lisp that's embedded in Python
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How to Write a (Lisp) Interpreter (In Python)
Not exactly the same (doesn't embed into the source like this did), but I believe Hylang[0] is the best Lisp package available for modern Python.
[0] https://github.com/hylang/hy
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Sapling: A highly experimental vi-inspired editor where you edit code, not text
Isn't that a bit what hy (https://hylang.org/) tries to do ? AIUI it is a lisp interacting directly with the AST of Python, allowing seamless interop: Python modules can be used from hy and vice versa, everything is transparent.
- Hylang, a Lisp dialect embedded in Python
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Hissp
I’ve been keeping loose tabs on this and Hy[1] for a while, but I’ve had some trouble figuring out the major differences between them and the use-cases for either. Would love to see an in-depth comparison in the form of a blog post sometime (though maybe the answer here is to do the research and write one up myself).
1: https://hylang.org
- Hy
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Ask HN: Is SICP/HtDP still worth reading in 2023? Any alternatives?
“Python is for scientists. Lisp is for engineers.”
Then what does that make Hy language?
https://hylang.org/
Re Languages with lots of example code and LLM’s
With translators or things like Hy lang, one could get the LLM’s to solve your problem in Python before converting it to another form. Then, you just need a translator. If lacking one, it’s easy to translate by hand.
The practicality of this concept will probably vary by use case. My experiments had GPT doing sketching, implementations, boilerplate, and even porting Python to Rust. A legally-clear LLM trained on multiple languages could probably be fine-tuned to do Python to LISP conversions. If not, Hy might be a stepping stone, too.
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Sharing Saturday #469
You could say so: I've been maintaining the compiler since 2016 ;). Infinitesimal Quest 2 + ε (SQ) exists more to advance Hy than for its own sake.
- What if: python without commas
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Best implementation of CL for learning purposes
If you are using Python - you might find Hylang (https://hylang.org) interesting.
What are some alternatives?
py4cl2 - Call python from Common Lisp
hissp - It's Python with a Lissp.
magicl - Matrix Algebra proGrams In Common Lisp.
Fennel - Lua Lisp Language
cl-cuda - Cl-cuda is a library to use NVIDIA CUDA in Common Lisp programs.
babashka - Native, fast starting Clojure interpreter for scripting
libpython-clj - Python bindings for Clojure
eso-light-attack-weave - This is a macro for the game Elder Scrolls Online
coalton - Coalton is an efficient, statically typed functional programming language that supercharges Common Lisp.
Carp - A statically typed lisp, without a GC, for real-time applications.
racket - The Racket repository
hebigo - 蛇語(HEH-bee-go): An indentation-based skin for Hissp.