proposal-observable VS fp-ts

https://github.com/tc39/proposal-observable

And there's the new one which seems to be getting implemented in node right now:

How does it differ from <https://github.com/tc39/proposal-observable/>?

I think it is a shame that the Observable proposal [1] still seems somewhat stuck in Stage 1. It's a better idea than just raw event emitters because of composability (if no other reason). Making Observables "first class" could go a long way to unifying a lot of reactivity patterns in various frameworks, in theory at least.

To be fair, Observables and especially Observable composition has a rough learning curve and many frameworks like Svelte intentionally prefer implict reactivity and avoiding things like explicit Observables because they are seen as too complex/"too hard" for the average developer.

(Then you get awful worst of both worlds frameworks like Angular that sort of rely on Observables but yet also don't trust teaching Observables and wind up with code that isn't properly Observable and so also has all the code for implicit reactivity and is full of nasty escape hatches that cause all sorts of composition problems and unnecessary side effects.)

[1] https://github.com/tc39/proposal-observable

Uses an interface described in the TC39 observables proposal

JavaScript doesn't have any built-in observables (addEventListener is part of the DOM API specific to browsers) though there is an old observable proposal collecting dust. I think ReactiveX (RxJS) is pretty much the go-to for any kind of observable functionality you may want. That may be a good place to start to really see what observables can do.

Observablelar streamlarga asoslangan reaktiv dasturlash paradigmasini olib kiradi JSga. Shaxsan menga eng yoqqan takliflardan biri. Bu haqida ham alohida maqola yozish niyat bor. RxJS (Angular) bilan ishlab ko'rganlar bo'lsa buni nimaligini juda yaxshi tushunishadi, endi bu library emas balki native 🚀 !!!

Observable is an object that takes a stream of data and emits events over time to react accordingly. There is a talk to add it to the ECMAScript standard and its proposal is here. Till now it is not part of the ECMAScript standard so to use it, you have to use a third-party library and the well-known Reactive Extension in Javascript is RxJs.

Well, the answer is surprisingly no. But, there is an active tc39 proposal going on around for a while, didn’t find it much active though, you could watch out here — https://github.com/tc39/proposal-observable

RxJS is an implementation of observables which do not exist natively in JavaScript. There is a proposal for adding observables to the language, but it's only stage 1 and hasn't been active for years.

I think it’s great that functional programming is making its way into traditional imperative languages - even JavaScript (I recently came across https://gcanti.github.io/fp-ts/ as a pretty extreme example)

Elixir/Erlang has function-level pattern matching, which I really like. I’ve yet to see it anywhere else, though my understanding is it came from Prolog.

While I certainly agree, I've found that this is often an indication of too-complex an architecture, and a fundamental re-think being necessary. I've had projects that depend on [fp-ts], which end up incredibly generic-heavy, but still make it entirely through a typecheck(not build- typescript's just worse at that than other tools like esbuild) in seconds-at-worse.

Obviously depends on your organization/project/application, but I do like these things as complexity-smells.

[fp-ts]: https://gcanti.github.io/fp-ts/

Unlike more comprehensive functional libraries like fp-ts, each module can be imported and resolved separately. If you just need options, simply add the option module and you're good to go.

While it's quite abstract, I believe it may be useful to those of you who is interested to learn more about functional programming [in Typescript] and also get more intuition on diverse programming ideas. I use fp-ts as a functional programming library there.

The library for TypeScript that this is influenced by is here:

https://github.com/gcanti/fp-ts

Interesting how both languages with this library converge to a similar syntax, due to heavy use of functions.

Learn something that pays the bill first - nowadays it's Golang/Rust react/typescript. Then you can try some pure fp libs like fp-ts and fp-core.rs, and look through existing scala cats docs. If you'll feel bad about it - that's totally fine and expectable, fp takes a paradigm shift and not that many dev able to shift their brains way of thought due to basic psychological rigidity) (inability to change habits and to modify concepts/attitudes once developed). And that's purely a staffing and management issue - folks hired randoms out of the blue, and called 'em a team.

fp-ts, a library that caters to functional programming in TypeScript, comes with some micro-abstractions that already solve a few of our needs.

Also, don't underestimate how powerful TypeScript can be in capable hands (namely Giulio Canti's). Check out fp-ts, for instance.

You are able to type it using function overloads, an example can be found here - link, line 236.

looks like more ergonomic/focused version of fp-ts[1]

[1] https://gcanti.github.io/fp-ts/