wisdom VS htmx

If you want to output to a browser here is the guide to achieve the best possible performance according to the numbers:

https://github.com/prettydiff/wisdom/blob/master/performance...

Warning: every time I post this people claim to want superior performance but then whine when they realize they have to actually write code (as opposed to letting NPM or React or jQuery do 99% of everything).

This was attempt to research the fastest possible approach to a JavaScript GUI in the browser.

https://github.com/prettydiff/wisdom/blob/master/performance...

The techniques mentioned are stupid fast to the fewest milliseconds, but most JavaScript developers find this incredibly unpopular.

Measure everything and be extremely critical. Be ready to challenge common and popular held assumptions.

Here is something I wrote about extreme performance in JavaScript that is discarded by most programmers because most people that program JavaScript professionally cannot really program.

https://github.com/prettydiff/wisdom/blob/master/performance...

For simple state management here is what I do: https://github.com/prettydiff/wisdom/blob/master/state_manag...

Here is an application with an OS-like GUI making use of that concept: https://github.com/prettydiff/share-file-systems

The challenge is in determining who is about to become obsolete and that is not clear. For example OOP remains the most popular and requested programming paradigm even though it has gradually slid into functional obsolescence more than a decade ago[1].

Even still legacy code will remain in use and talent to maintain legacy systems will remain in demand. My university still teaches COBOL because there still exists demand for people to maintain these legacy applications even if new applications are no longer written in that language.

[1] https://github.com/prettydiff/wisdom/blob/master/Object_Orie...

That depends on how many changes it requires. If its just a matter of don't do these 3 things and your code suddenly becomes more predictable its like being slapped with a magic wand. Everybody wins. All you have to do to ensure 100% of your code compiles in a JIT is be predictable. Predictable code is, on its face, always less confusing.

> The performance benefits are likely to be minimal

This makes me cry, but not a cry of joy or ecstasy. People guessing about performance is perhaps the most frequent anti-pattern in all programming. Please read this document, you can skip to the end but it may not make much sense if you do. https://github.com/prettydiff/wisdom/blob/master/JavaScript_...

After talking about the biggest failures I have seen through my career in learning JavaScript I watched a YouTube video about an interview with a divorce attorney. It was interesting because the behaviors I heard expressed in that video exactly aligned with behaviors I see expressed in failures to learn after large commitments of time investment in programming. It inspired me to write this: https://github.com/prettydiff/wisdom/blob/master/JavaScript_...

The most important learning for me out of this is that people are predictable and how we commit is modeled by how perceptions of rewards are attained. It also inspired me to dive deeper into self learning about behavior and economics, because people do exceptionally irrational things to avoid perceived discomfort.

> just want to know what makes a good web framework.

Personal opinion. A framework is an architecture in a box so that you, the developer, do not have to make as many decisions. Normally when developers are asking such questions they are seeking easiness: https://github.com/prettydiff/wisdom/blob/master/Easiness.md

Software developers, especially DOM fearing front developers love using the word easy. It isn’t so much an infatuation but more like a fatal attraction obsession where obstruction means war on a very emotional level. Ironically, people are loathe to confront these feelings openly and thus cannot define the word easy with any kind of clear practical application.

So, I did the world a favor and wrote just such a definition: https://github.com/prettydiff/wisdom/blob/master/Easiness.md...

Depends on the definition of simplicity. People say they want simple, but then really want easy. The most easy is always somebody doing the work for you. I got tired of hearing people mention easy when really they probably mean some combination of fearful and/or lazy, so I chose to define easiness:

https://github.com/prettydiff/wisdom/blob/master/Easiness.md

If developers really wanted simplicity or to be done with work faster they would just learn the primitives of their environment: DOM, functions, and events. Most of the frameworks have APIs that are huge, so clearly simplicity isn't what's wanted.

When I work with HTMX I need isolated component that can be reusable a form. So I create a PHP Function that generate the Input Datalist.

I was inspired by htmz (which was in turn inspired by htmx) and how the author got pretty close to a basic htmx-like experience just using an iframe. I wanted to push it a little further so whipped this demo together. My submission demonstrates progressive enhancement for the form - with js enabled the request targets an iframe that is inserted into the dom, meaning the page doesn't actually navigate (similar to event.preventDefault()). The iframe receives the html response from the request and on load triggers a function to swap out it's contents into the main page.

As described on htmx.org: "htmx gives you access to AJAX, CSS Transitions, WebSockets and Server Sent Events directly in HTML, using attributes, so you can build modern user interfaces with the simplicity and power of hypertext"

Apart from the source code itself, the repo's README also gives a bit more details about the various packages I used.

1. htmx: https://htmx.org/

Also, there’s some response header juggling you have to do when submitting forms that have a validation step before redirecting: https://github.com/bigskysoftware/htmx/issues/369

I’ve tried to iron out any footguns or server requirements I’ve bumped into while using HTMX & Hotwire in my projects.

✨ In recent months, I have been developing web projects using GOTTHA stack: Go + Templ + Tailwind CSS + htmx + Alpine.js. As soon as I'm ready to talk about all the subtleties and pitfalls, I'll post it on my social networks.

I've been digging into HTMX lately (using Python web frameworks) and find the concepts and approach to be interesting and promising. The idea of hypermedia driven systems over the current practice of JavaScript based frameworks (I never really got into React, played with Vue, and enjoy Svelte/SvelteKit) and the ability to chose your language/framework for the backend while primarily leveraging HTML/CSS on the frontend just seems refreshing.

Apparently it changed from 2-clause BSD: https://github.com/bigskysoftware/htmx/commit/e16f1865a494b6...

(The zero clause license drops the requirements for preserving the copyright notice when distributing)

It would be a sin not to start with something that prides itself on being the front-end library of peace. HTMX skyrocketed in popularity in 2023, gaining most of its GitHub stars during the past year. HTMX is not your average JS framework. If you work in HTMX, you will spend most of your time in the world of hypermedia, looking at web development from a completely different pair of eyes as compared to our usual JS-heavy outlook on modern web development. HTMX leverages the power of the concept of HATEOAS (Hypermedia as the Engine of Application State), enabling developers to access browser features directly from HTML, instead of using Javascript.