pekko VS dotty

Pekko is open source, has the same API. So there's no problem there.

Understandable considering the size of Pekko and how much time is passed, I would recommend asking any questions/concerns on either the Pekko mailing list https://lists.apache.org/[email protected] or on Github discussions https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/discussions.

Another big reason behind the "struggle" is we have done further improvements. For example the first release of Pekko will support all Scala versions from 2.12 up to 3.3.0 LTS (which was just released a couple of days ago). This also includes Pekko's modules which means we had to either add back in Scala 2.12 support or Scala 3 support. Yet another example would be https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/pull/281 which allowed us to drop scala-java8-compat dependency for Scala 2.13 or higher. So while these improvements aren't technically necessary, they have a large impact on Pekko going forward, i.e. the scala-java8-compat change means that we can drop Scala 2.12 at any point in time without breaking users.

Apache Pekko is the open source fork of Akka. I know they can use more hands right now - https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/issues

There is an option missing: Considering switching to pekko when it's ready: https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko

- In 2022, Lightbend changed the Akka licence, made it proprietary and very expensive at large scale

Software that starts out as more "pure", non-corporate open-source can still turn the tables on you and charge large licensing fees later. But at least if it's open source from the start, it can be forked, e.g. for Akka, there's this Apache fork that was started after Akka changed its licence: https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko . This is the key open source protection, and it's true for both corporate and non-corporate projects.

Dotty? Was it still the name later?

http://dotty.epfl.ch/

I think this might be related to this issue.

You can look (and EPFL collect feedback) about EPFL implementation of async/await: https://github.com/lampepfl/async. Also you can look at dotty ticket about this: https://github.com/lampepfl/dotty/pull/16739

The reason I’m not currently an opaque type user as they do not play well with the tagless final style we use, though I am patiently awaiting some attention on my bug report: https://github.com/lampepfl/dotty/issues/17281

Links: - https://dotty.epfl.ch/ - https://scala-native.org/en/stable/ - https://www.scala-js.org/ - https://typelevel.org/ - https://zio.dev/ - https://github.com/scala-native/scala-native/pull/3120 - https://github.com/lampepfl/dotty/pull/16517 - https://dotty.epfl.ch/docs/reference/experimental/index.html - https://scala-cli.virtuslab.org/ - https://scalameta.org/metals/ - https://docs.scala-lang.org/scala3/guides/migration/compatibility-intro.html - https://www.scala-lang.org/blog/2023/04/18/faster-scalajs-development-with-frontend-tooling.html - https://www.scala-lang.org/blog/2022/08/17/long-term-compatibility-plans.html

Scala Native has much more control on how the Scala AST is compiled, and can easier workaround platform limitations, eg. lazy vals in Scala 3 required reflection config for Native Image (see this and that), while in Scala Native we could mitigate problems with unsupported usage inside in other ways within the compiler plugin.

By the way, you might be interested in this recent PR which overhauls the scala 3 macro docs: https://github.com/lampepfl/dotty/pull/17060.

For example, this issue (https://github.com/lampepfl/dotty/issues/12840) was blocking the migration, it was reported more than a year ago and the fix was finally released a month ago (https://github.com/lampepfl/dotty/releases/tag/3.3.0-RC2).

For the record, there is an implementation of :javap which is close to being done but might need a volunteer to get it over the finish line: https://github.com/lampepfl/dotty/pull/12210

im glad to tell you that in 3.3.0 a lot of these -Wunused lints will be supported: see https://github.com/lampepfl/dotty/pull/16157