pagoda VS services

Recently, I have stumbled across this one: https://github.com/mikestefanello/pagoda

I'd like to make a small plug for a really awesome Golang web development starter kit I found recently called pagoda (https://github.com/mikestefanello/pagoda). It wires up HTMX, together with Alpine.js and Bulma CSS, onto a really fantastic collection of Go libraries on the back end.

Well said. The 'no big framework' thing works for Go because the Go standard library defines a common way for dealing with HTTP. The difficulty, then, is identifying 3rd party packages that play well with the rest of the ecosystem.

You can see the opposite in projects like Echo, Gin, Beego, etc., that eschew the standard library to various degrees and try to build the kitchen sink themselves. Sometimes this works! Echo is very popular, despite having nonstandard handlers and context. An absolute Go newbie is probably going to have an easier time using it than trying to pick out the best collection of libraries themselves.

I would love to see more 'blessed stack' collections that tie together good libraries such as this one: https://github.com/mikestefanello/pagoda

The readme doesn't seem to mention or list what libraries this depends on, it has chi and jet at least based on the structs section.

Given this "framework" is predominantly a collection of other people's (usually apache/mit) work, where is the BOM/licence text including all of the dependencies?

And why has the author attempted to licence their likely sub 100 lines of glue code under the GPL?

I don't see the point in using something like this which is basically a prefilled go.mod with some other files with a pretty stock organization.

I've used Pagoda (https://github.com/mikestefanello/pagoda) in the past which makes a show of displaying its nature as a wrapper around a bunch of community libraries, and is documented as such. They also make effort to document the interfaces for each component so you could easily replace them with your own implementations to avoid getting stuck due to the "framework". This is my preferred approach for all of these "starters" now since using pagoda.

I recently came across https://github.com/mikestefanello/pagoda - which is also a very good starter kit. Unfortunately it comes with some tools I personally don't like a lot (yet) - like htmlx for templates. I suppose this is a problem of all starters - you can only build one which is ideal for you, but not for others. But anyway it's simpler to remove/replace unnecessary parts than create everything from scratch.

Pagoda looks really nice

We used Micro to build and offer Micro services on M3O. Every API to you see there is powered by the open source equivalent Micro service here https://github.com/micro/services

I will make a note here https://github.com/micro/services/issues/262

I shared this post in a few developer communities like Hacker News and it was well received. Over the past few years I've been working on an open source project called Micro, an API first development platform and I'm now sharing Micro Services, a catalog of reusable real world Micro services.

Thanks, that made now more sense. I'd put this condensed together with https://micro.dev/blog/2022/09/27/real-world-micro-services.... more prominently to the readme of https://github.com/micro/services ! Looking at that github alone makes it hard to commect the context.

Thanks for the comments and questions. I'll do my best to answer them.

> Are things hosted on some other cloud provider, if so where? What region?

Our core platform is currently hosted on DigitalOcean in the London region. That will expand to multiple regions and multiple providers over time. We did start that way many years ago but with a small team it's hard to manage.

> What about uptime? If I end up building an application with all of these APIs, I do need a bit more confidence that things will be stable.

We want to be able to provide uptime guarantees in the near future. Right now I'll say based on our experience running it in the past 9-12 months it's feeling like four 9s verging on 5 but I don't want to jinx us. We are dependent on our providers but we're also people who have managed platforms for many years.

> the crypto endpoint looks interesting, but for me, it would be quite crucial to know where the data is from? How often is it updated?

Our crypto APIs are currently powered Finage.co.uk. We do some level of caching on our side but only for 5-10 mins. I'll try add some details around that in the overview. You can see the source at https://github.com/micro/services

We're playing in this space with M3O (https://m3o.com) but focused very much on making APIs programmable as opposed to completely doing away with the code.