p2pcf VS kons-9

You can use my project p2pcf to do WebRTC signalling and then sync the cursors by just blasting datachannel messages to all your connected peers.

https://github.com/gfodor/p2pcf

I’m working on this, but for 3D.

The essential pieces you may be interested in:

- put all UI in shadow dom under the root, so inspector is exactly the html being edited

- use the file system access api to allow local writeback to file system while editing

- when on the web, connect to GitHub or via WebDAV to write back to origin while editing

- collaborate via crdts over webrtc. I wrote a cheap/free serverless signaling system for this: https://github.com/gfodor/p2pcf

DM me on Twitter if you want to Collab - this particular thread is something I’m going to be pushing hard on but not for 2D HTML, but 3D HTML.

Yes I think you should spend some time cleaning up your PoC into a real, usable project. Write a nice readme, get it so anyone can run it quickly and easily, etc. In my most recent github project I released [1] I also used DALL-E to make a nice header to the README, which can also help make it feel like a solid thing to be worth checking out imo.

[1] https://github.com/gfodor/p2pcf

Very cool. I must check this out.

I implemented some L-system features in my 3D Common Lisp system: https://github.com/kaveh808/kons-9

In some small way I am revisiting the idea with https://github.com/kaveh808/kons-9

We'll see what comes of it.

I began my 3D graphics development on a Symbolics workstation at the MIT Media Lab in the mid-80's. This was before the S-Graphics suite was released. [0]

The outstanding feature of the S-Graphics suite was the polygonal modeler which used a winged-edge structure that was far ahead of its time. It survives conceptually in the Wings3D system, which is a quite faithful copy of that modeler.

And of course you got the extensibility that came with the graphics system being built on Lisp.

But Symbolics was never, as far as I saw, a serious or popular contender in 3D production. Not only was the system expensive, but the hardware could not keep up with SGI's graphics abilities. Furthermore, the mass of CG developers at the time came from a C/Unix background, and rendering especially was so speed critical that C (and Fortran) resulted in faster systems.

Almost 40 years later, I have returned to the idea of developing a 3D system in Common Lisp [1]. We shall see where it leads.

[0] https://medium.com/@kaveh808/late-night-lisp-machine-hacking...

[1] https://github.com/kaveh808/kons-9

If you are interested in 3D graphics, I have tried to keep my code simple and comprehensible: https://github.com/kaveh808/kons-9

As a solo developer of my 3D system, my main focus has been to keep the enthusiasm and momentum going and to enjoy the development process, rather than worrying about how the code might not be optimal in various regards.