opentofu VS Dokku

and more.

Hey!

> With OpenTofu exclusive features making such an early debut, is the intention to remain a superset of upstream Terraform functionality and spec, or allow OpenTofu to diverge and move in its own direction?

The intention is to let it diverge. There will surely be some amount of shared new features, but we're generally going our own way.

> Will you aim to stick to compatibility with Terraform providers/modules?

Yes.

Regarding providers, we might introduce some kind of superset protocol for providers at some point, for tofu-exclusive functionality, but we'll make sure to design it in a way where providers keep working with both Terraform and OpenTofu.

Regarding modules, this one will be more tricky, as there might Terraform languages features that aren't supported in OpenTofu and vice-versa. We have a proposal[0] to tackle this, and enable module authors to easily create modules with support for both, even when using some exclusive features of any one of them.

> Is the potential impact of community fragmentation on your mind as many commercial users who don’t care about open source ideology stick to the tried-and-true Hashicorp Terraform?

We've talked to a lot of people, and we've met many who see the license changes as a risk for them, while OpenTofu, with its open-source nature, is the less-risky choice. That includes large enterprises.

> Is there any intention to try and supplement the tooling around the core product to provide an answer to features like Terraform Cloud dashboard, sentinel policies and other things companies may want out of the product outside of the command line tool itself?

That's mostly covered by the companies sponsoring OpenTofu's development: Spacelift (I work here), env0, Scalr, Harness, Gruntworks.

[0]: https://github.com/opentofu/opentofu/issues/1328

Please remember to file in a calm and orderly fashion toward the exits and remember: IBM killed Centos for profit.

Terraform users can pick up their new alternative here:

https://opentofu.org/

and for those of you with Vault, you can find your new alternative here:

https://openbao.org/

OpenTofu v1.6

Note: New versions of Terraform will be placed under the BUSL license, but everything created before version 1.5.x stays open-source. OpenTofu is an open-source version of Terraform that will expand on Terraform's existing concepts and offerings. It is a viable alternative to HashiCorp's Terraform, being forked from Terraform version 1.5.6. OpenTofu retained all the features and functionalities that had made Terraform popular among developers while also introducing improvements and enhancements. OpenTofu is not going to have its own providers and modules, but it is going to use its own registry for them.

opentofu is solving this with proper state encryption support: https://github.com/opentofu/opentofu/issues/874

As with all other Linux Foundation and CNCF projects, OpenTofu is guided by the Technical Steering Committee(TSC), which works in open collaboration with the community on the development of new features, upgrades, bug fixes, etc. The current TSC consists of representatives from Harness, Spacelift, Scalr, Gruntworks, and env0.

Would be great to see a comparison to some better known alternatives like

- Dokku [0]

- CapRover [1]

[0] https://dokku.com/

[1] https://caprover.com/

If you want to dig into it anyways, Dokku is an interesting mention. They provide an Open Source PaaS that you can install on your server to simplify self hosting containers.

When I came across Coolify, I thought of giving it a try. I am aware of Dokku, but I never really tried it because it doesn't have a UI. I work primarily as a UI developer, so having a nice UI to work with is a plus for me.

I run all my projects on Dokku. It’s a sweet spot for me between a barebones VPS with Docker Compose and something a lot more complicated like k8s. Dokku comes with a bunch of solid plugins for databases that handle backups and such. Zero downtime deploys, TLS cert management, reverse proxies, all out of the box. It’s simple enough to understand in a weekend and has been quietly maintained for many years. The only downside is it’s meant mostly for single server deployments, but I’ve never needed another server so far.

https://dokku.com/

Yeah there are a bunch of selfhostable things:

Caprover (https://caprover.com/)

Dokku (https://github.com/dokku/dokku)

But people still choose Netlify and Vercel for ease of use I think.

Maybe we need something that's just Netlify. The closest I've seen to the "right" UX is Ness:

https://ness.sh

The modern iteration of these tools has taken the developer experience learnings from the Platform as a Service (PaaS) category, and will bring them to your own VM, giving you your own personal PaaS. Example of this include Dokku, Coolify, Caprover, Cloud66 and many more!

Based on the fact that your ideal is to have a similar experience to heroku than managing your own server setting up reverse proxies take a look at these options:

1) https://dokku.com - lets you turn your light sail instance basically into heroku

2) https://render.com

3) https://fly.io

4) If you have aws credits this is their heroku equivalent: https://aws.amazon.com/elasticbeanstalk

above is not what I do but would be the options I would pursue if I understand your preference and requirement correctly.

All in all, I really recommend trying out Dokku if you are a developer interested in hosting your own projects. It makes it super easy to get everything you need to get up and running without having to worry about the specifics. And the price is impossible to beat!

The installation instructions are on the frontpage of our site. Thats basically all you need to do to install Dokku. As far as using it, we have a simplified tutorial here.