openssh-portable VS quicssh

Default for the last 24 years according to https://github.com/openssh/openssh-portable/blame/385ecb31e1...

They didn't need to use the library to make use of the systemd notify mechanism, which is simple to interface and quite a nice feature in the first place.

The free-standing implementation: https://github.com/openssh/openssh-portable/commit/08f579231...

Unless I'm misunderstanding what this is about RFC5647 merely points out that the sequence number is included as AAD due to RFC4253 requirements. The [email protected] specification is not exactly the most rigorous thing I've ever seen (https://github.com/openssh/openssh-portable/blob/master/PROT...) but reading it, the sequence number is only included in the IV, and not as AAD, which directly runs afoul of the RFC4253 section 6.4 requirement for it to be included in the MAC.

The key layout is described in https://github.com/openssh/openssh-portable/blob/master/PROT... and you can view it pretty easily via

cat private_key_here | head -n -1 | tail -n +2 | base64 -d | xxd

One I created in 2016 is using aes256-cbc with bcrypt for the kdf, which isn't awful at all.

Interestingly, it looks like ssh-agent disables core dumps[1], but I don't see similar usage for sshd

1: https://github.com/openssh/openssh-portable/blob/694150ad927...

There's a current pull request for adding AF_UNIX support, which should make all kinds of exciting forwarding possible, since it will make it easy to proxy ssh connections through an arbitrary local process which can do anything to forward the data to the remote end.

https://github.com/openssh/openssh-portable/pull/431

OpenSSH server (allows connecting to containers)

It doesn't, at least not for generic/unmodified cryptographic applications.

WebAuthN signatures are of a very specific challenge/response format that applications need to explicitly support. For example, SSH had to add new key and signature formats [1] to support it.

Theoretically, a blockchain/cryptocurrency application could adopt the WebAuthN signature format as its canonical or an alternative signature format, but I'm not aware of any popular one having done so.

[1] https://github.com/openssh/openssh-portable/blob/master/PROT...

I just tested it and looked at the code briefly; the client fortunately does seem to remove all keys not provided by the server: https://github.com/openssh/openssh-portable/blob/36c6c3eff5e...

It seems like at least a `known_hosts` compromise would be "self-healing" after connecting to the legitimate github.com server once.

SSH over QUIC exists: https://github.com/moul/quicssh.

I don't see any advantage of layering HTTP/3 here. It adds more friction, and the only advantage it brings is being able to "hide" the SSH server over a URL path. I guess x.509 certificates would be fine, but SSH hostkeys, SSHFP or TOFU is enough and far more secure (because it implicitly pins the server public key).

It's a relatively new project from the looks of it, so I'd definitely not use it anywhere half important having to create something interesting with QUIC and HTTP/3.

quicssh-rs is quicssh rust implementation. It is based on quinn and tokio

See also:

"My ISP Is Killing My Idle SSH Sessions. Yours Might Be Too" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25737611

"quicssh is a QUIC proxy that allows to use QUIC to connect to an SSH server without needing to patch the client or the server" https://github.com/moul/quicssh