opensource.microsoft.com VS xnu

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Jesse what the fuck are you on about? Open source is pretty neat but you know microsoft has a open source page. If you are gonna say but linux blah blah blah microsoft is a platinum linux foundation member

M$ also has a page with some of their projects and contributions. https://opensource.microsoft.com/

Microsoft has come a really long way in expanding their platform out. They open sourced PowerShell and .NET are actively promoting others ( https://opensource.microsoft.com ) and have full Linux cloud support on Azure.

Microsoft themselves is one of the biggest open source contributors in the world. They've moved big projects like PowerShell to be completely open source. They even own GitHub and are one of the top Linux contributors. https://opensource.microsoft.com

It's ok, the commit is enough

> That said--in support of "not in a vacuum", and against myth-making.

Apple knows what they owe to open source software: https://opensource.apple.com/releases/

A lot of the core XNU and Darwin code is open source: https://opensource.apple.com/releases/

> When I'm seeing a weird network issue, I want to be able to peer into the kernel's tcp stack.

Uhh...

https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/xnu/tree/xnu-8796...

I think NeXT might've written an HFS Standard reader or something, but they used the Apple code for HFS+ so it ended up as a hybrid.

https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/xnu/blob/rel/xnu-...

Mach message passing and objc message passing have no relation. I don’t think xnu contains much if any objc.

Obviously not all of its, but they contribute quite a bit. https://opensource.apple.com/releases/

here is the kernel source (they have branches for each individual macos release with its darwin kernel ver, macos 13 is ver 8792.xx.x for instance): https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/xnu

Apple does plenty of open source stuff. Safari's browser engine, Swift, libdispatch, the XNU kernel used by iOS and macOS, etc. And macOS is generally packed with open source things, like the default shell, zsh. Also, Metal actually predates Vulkan, so Vulkan was definitely not established when they started focusing on Metal. Yeah, they probably should consider supporting Vulkan now, but it's nothing to do with open source. The main beneficiaries of Apple supporting Vulkan would be people porting closed-source games.