kraken
Ultralight
kraken | Ultralight | |
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8 | 53 | |
4,913 | 4,597 | |
0.0% | 0.2% | |
0.0 | 2.9 | |
over 1 year ago | 9 days ago | |
TypeScript | CMake | |
Apache License 2.0 | - |
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kraken
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It probably has been done before. No shame on chrumium, it's good browser, but come one people, skins are not separate browsers
There's also stuff like Kraken, whatever SerenityOS is doing for its web browser and what I hope takes over very soon - Servo.
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what do you think about alternative browser engines?
Once there was Kosmonaut and Kraken, now there is WebF (Web on Flutter).
- 4th contender: Compile web technologies to flutter
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Konqueror deserves more love
One can dream and it would be awesome if Konqueror could get much, much love - fundings, people interested on it and working for it, making it shine and gain back its old glory. We can dream about The Linux Foundation getting funds to keep goin with Servo and not letting it die so we could use it as another backend with Konqueror, same as how you can right now pick between Webkit or KHTML. Or maybe some other new project like Kraken. But none of us can predict the future so who knows what's gonna happen.
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Write in JavaScript, Render in Flutter
As a Flutter developer, "Write in JavaScript, Render in Flutter" is vague.
It's "Write Flutter apps in Javascript". Flutter is not a "renderer", Flutter is a framework + engine. "Kraken" literally builds widgets for you when you write Javascript code, Flutter is doing a lot more than "rendering".
"Kraken" is like React Native, but instead of talking to the host platform, it uses Flutter. Flutter is already cross platform, so the only benefit here is to write in Javascript. However, you would probably inherit some costs similar to React Native: communication between a Javascript Engine/ interpreter and a AOT compiled application. This time, you don't get to use the react-native-plugin NPM packages, because you'd need kraken-flutter-plugins.
The biggest concern I have is usability. How will I use popular Flutter packages, from Javascript? The "Kraken" community is very small. Even worse, the community seems purely based in China.
It's very difficult to understand the health of the codebase with all these github issues written in Mandarin Chinese: https://github.com/openkraken/kraken/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%...
- Kraken – A High-performance web rendering engine based on Flutter
- Vue.js on Flutter?
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【New flutter plugin】A high-performance, web standards-compliant rendering engine based on Flutter.
Github: https://github.com/openkraken/kraken
Ultralight
- Ultralight: Display Web-Content Everywhere
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Writing a TrueType font renderer
[2] https://ultralig.ht/
- This year in Servo: over 1000 pull requests and beyond
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Arc browser launches its Windows client in beta
Web rendering would be Blink, with V8 being the JavaScript engine. I believe they have their own UI rendering process.
I know of another company that does something similar for the UI process, but with WebKit instead as the base:
https://github.com/ultralight-ux/ultralight#rocket-dual-high...
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Ode to the M1
What I'd really like to see with CEF et al, is JS being dropped, in favor of directly controlling the DOM from the host language. Then we could, for example, write a Rust (or Kotlin, Zig, Haskell, etc) desktop application that simply directly manipulated the DOM, and had it rendered by a HTML+CSS layout engine. Folks could then write a React-like framework for that language (to help render & re-render the DOM in an elegant way).
Ultralight (https://ultralig.ht/) looks pretty cool. I think another possible option is Servo (https://github.com/servo/servo) – it was abandoned by Mozilla along with Rust during their layoffs a while back (but the project still seems to have a decent bit of activity). It would be great if some group of devs could revive the project, or a company could fund such a revival.
Eventually, we'll need to reflect on, and explore whether HTML+CSS is really the best way to do layout, and we could maybe perhaps consider proting the Android/iOS layout approach over to desktop.
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Anselm's Jazz Distributed Infrastructure Framework
I'm curious if the project will be open-source or do you have plans to go the Awesomium/Ultralight route with both open/closed sources and volume licenses? Or do you plan to offer commercial support services like other open source software?
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Best cross-platform (Win, Mac, Linux) desktop frameworks?
I’m not tied to any language, but it needs to be able to wrap a c++ library. I started with .NET 7 MAUI - no linux support & very mobile focused. Tried out Electron. Wins on ease and usability, but has massive overhead. (Basic “Hello world” executable compiled to over 200mb) I then discovered Ultralight (https://ultralig.ht/). Big win on size, but was last updated 3 years ago.
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Remember when this was 0% and 70 mb? This is comical.
tauri exists or if you wanted to ultralig.ht
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Digital Audio Workstation Front End Development Struggles
I agree web stuff is really the best way to develop UIs. Good luck making responsive stuff in C++ for example. The paradigm of HTML, CSS, and JS is extremely powerful and even allows you to use canvas, webgpu, wasm.
There are multiple commercial projects that use web dev paradigm for GUIs:
https://coherent-labs.com/
https://ultralig.ht/
https://sciter.com/
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what do you think about alternative browser engines?
Nice review, thanks! There are also: Ultralight (based on Webkit), LiteHTML, Tkhtml3 and Lobo Evolution. See also timeline of web engines.
What are some alternatives?
add-tradingview-alerts-tool - Automated entry of TradingView alerts for bot trading tools such as 3Commas, Alertatron, CryptoHopper, etc.
webview - Tiny cross-platform webview library for C/C++. Uses WebKit (GTK/Cocoa) and Edge WebView2 (Windows).
webf - Build flutter apps with HTML/CSS and JavaScript.
tauri - Build smaller, faster, and more secure desktop applications with a web frontend.
mxflutter - 基于JavaScript 的Flutter框架 mxflutter
qt-ultralight-browser - Ultra-lightweight web browser based on Qt Ultralight webview, powered by Ultralight HTML renderer
language - Design of the Dart language
wry - Cross-platform WebView library in Rust for Tauri.
Flutter - Flutter makes it easy and fast to build beautiful apps for mobile and beyond
ClassicUO - ClassicUO - an open source implementation of the Ultima Online Classic Client.
gallery - Kraken Gallery
litehtml - Fast and lightweight HTML/CSS rendering engine