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mui-toolpad
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FastUI: Build Better UIs Faster
This seems to mainly be useful for spinning up quick and dirty internal tools.
But for that use-case, isn't it easier to use something visual and established like Retool (https://retool.com/) or that generates nice react code, like MUI Toolpad (https://mui.com/toolpad/)?
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Plasmic.app β the visual builder for your tech stack
How does it stack up against MUI's Toolpad? (https://mui.com/toolpad/)
All things considered, they seem pretty similar - visual UI to generate React code that works alongside existing codebase, open-source & self-hostable, etc.
- just discovered MUI and...
- I hate CSS: how can I build UIs?
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Show HN: MUI Toolpad β Open-source, local-first, admin app builder
- All configuration is stored in local files which you can version-control, edit, and deploy in any way you want.
You can check out our live demo [1]. If you find it useful, you can support us by giving a star on GitHub [2]. We released our public beta [3] this week. We are happy to answer any questions/feedback in the comments.
[1]: https://stackblitz.com/fork/github/mui/mui-toolpad/tree/mast...
[2]: https://github.com/mui/mui-toolpad
[3]: https://mui.com/blog/2023-toolpad-beta-announcement/
- MUI Toolpad: Turn Your APIs, Scripts, SQL into UIs
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Ask HN: How can a BE/infra developer handle the FE side of personal projects?
- Vercel for hosting, because they take a Git repo and host it for you in a couple clicks and manage everything. Free or cheap ($20/mo) at MVP stage.
- Next.js (Vercel's open-source React framework) will handle frontend tooling, routing, type checking, and linting for you with a single command (`npx create-next-app`). Starting the server is one more command (`next dev`) and your page is up and running.
- For the UI layer, I'd recommend either starting with one of their prebuilt templates (https://vercel.com/templates/next.js) and modifying it as needed
OR using a modern component system like https://mui.com/ or https://ant.design/ or https://chakra-ui.com/ instead of trying to learn and write your own component and JS+CSS code. Using one of these systems will allow you to compose complex apps out of well-made, well-documented, easy-to-use primitives, making it much easier to focus on business needs rather than basic frontend components and infra.
The basic MUI system, for example, is totally free. You can find third-party apps built on top of it (https://mui.com/store/#populars) and pay a one-time license fee to essentially "fork" them, getting a prebuilt working app that you just attach your backend API calls to.
There are also low-code extensions of these frameworks (meaning you start with a GUI, plan out your app that way, but still have access to the source for future advanced changes). Examples are https://mui.com/toolpad/ and https://retool.com/use-case/dashboards-and-reporting
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Is this a lot? Yes and no. React has a learning curve of its own, but it can take the place of having to learn raw HTML and CSS. (Yes, you eventually should know those things for debugging and polishing, but they are largely a level of abstraction below what you really need for a basic MVP).
Once you learn React, its primary value isn't that it's a great language (opinions differ) but that it has a humongous ecosystem of third-party vendors, free open-source libraries (basically any component you might think to build is probably already available on npm), and a wide availability of devs from hobbyists to full-timers.
Others in this topic will suggest going away from Javascript as much as possible (and using things like HTMX or backend-to-HTML solutions like the old days). That's fine, but you lose out on the rich ecosystem of React and Javascript, so you end up having to build more yourself -- which is what you're trying to avoid in your case.
My own 2Β’: As someone who grew up with HTML and made websites since the birth of Javascript and CSS, the web has always been messy. It's always been a semi-open ecosystem controlled by a few major companies (whether that's Netscape or Microsoft or Sun or Adobe, or these days Google and Apple), so it very much suffers from design-by-bullying. Whoever is the power player of the decade gets to add their favorite technologies that everyone else is forced to adopt. Thus the web became a hodgepodge of document markup systems poorly fitted for modern apps, with various hacks on top of hacks built to satisfy some big company or another's in-house needs. Sadly, that means going "vanilla HTML+JS" doesn't leave you with much, just the shattered legacy of poor historical decisions.
React at least helps by encouraging componentization and abstraction of UI elements to functions, using cleaner data models (actual variables and objects) vs direct DOM manipulation (storing page content as state).
We've gone through many generational shifts in approach, from the raw HTML days of Geocities to the you-build-it, we-host-it approach of Godaddy and its ilk, to the "all in one" CMSes like Wordpress or Drupal. These days, (if you want there to be), there can be a pretty clear separation between backend and frontend systems, and with that specialization came a bunch of startups (mentioned above) whose approach is "let us help you build it as best as we can, so you can focus on business logic instead of basic UI and infra". After 20 years of doing this, the current state of the web developer experience is actually my favorite so far. HTML and CSS suck for building apps (as opposed to documents), and although Javascript is a lot better since ECMAscript v6 (ES6), it is still inextricably tied to the DOM (and thus HTML elements) unless you use an abstraction like React.
It's the difference between writing something like:
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What is the most used react UI framework ? need to visual drag and drop app
We at MUI have been working on an open-source drag-and-drop React app builder. Link to the landing page: https://mui.com/toolpad/ This week we have published an interactive demo as well. You can check out the repo here.
flet
- Python dev considering Electron vs. Kivy for desktop app UI
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FastUI: Build Better UIs Faster
> When you run flet build command it ... Packages Python app using package command of serious_python package. -- https://flet.dev/docs/guides/python/packaging-app-for-distri...
It looks like Flet is for client-side code. It lets you write Flutter apps with Python instead of Dart.
> Simple Architecture - No more complex architecture with JavaScript frontend, REST API backend, database, cache, etc. With Flet you just write a monolith stateful app in Python only and get multi-user, realtime Single-Page Application (SPA). -- https://flet.dev
If I'm writing Python that runs on the mobile device, it must talk to a server to read & write data. Doesn't this still require an API backend, database, cache, etc?
- Ask HN: Can I create a mobile and Web App using Python/Python Framework?
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Ask HN: Cross-platform GUI apps in 2024
I just learned of Flet (https://flet.dev) which seems interesting for Python. I may try this as well.
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Flutter seems to be having bad times internally
maybe check out https://flet.dev
- Release v0.11.0 Β· flet-dev/flet
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How to Build an Online MRZ Generator with Python, Pyodide and HTML5
When developing or selecting an MRZ (Machine Readable Zone) recognition SDK, the primary challenge lies in finding an appropriate dataset for testing. Acquiring genuine MRZ images is challenging, and due to privacy concerns, they aren't publicly accessible. Therefore, crafting MRZ images becomes a practical solution. Fortunately, there's an open-source Python MRZ generator project, available for download from pypi, eliminating the need to start from scratch. This article aims to illustrate how to integrate and run Python scripts within web applications. First, We will showcase how to employ the Python MRZ SDK and Flet to construct a cross-platform MRZ generator. Subsequently, we will reuse the Python script with Pyodide, HTML5, and the Dynamsoft JavaScript MRZ SDK, creating an advanced online MRZ tool that can handle both MRZ creation and MRZ detection.
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Flet is "The fastest way to build Flutter apps in Python" - it's not :(
"The fastest way to build Flutter apps in Python" is the title of Flet's web page. As someone coming from the Flutter world reading the line I draw an ideal picture of "swapping Dart language for Python and magically having the whole power of Flutter framework and the tips of your fingers".
- Job requires 12 years of Flutter experience.
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Python GUIs
Well I haven't seen anyone mention Flet, which is pleasant (if maybe not all that complete) if you have Dart/Flutter experience, so increment your counter at least one. :-)
https://flet.dev/
What are some alternatives?
appsmith - Platform to build admin panels, internal tools, and dashboards. Integrates with 25+ databases and any API.
kivy - Open source UI framework written in Python, running on Windows, Linux, macOS, Android and iOS
primereact - The Most Complete React UI Component Library
reflex - πΈοΈ Web apps in pure Python π
mantine - A fully featured React components library
Flutter - Flutter makes it easy and fast to build beautiful apps for mobile and beyond
n8n - Free and source-available fair-code licensed workflow automation tool. Easily automate tasks across different services.
nicegui - Create web-based user interfaces with Python. The nice way.
plasmic - Visual builder for React. Build apps, websites, and content. Integrate with your codebase.
CustomTkinter - A modern and customizable python UI-library based on Tkinter
Tailwind CSS - A utility-first CSS framework for rapid UI development.
reflex-examples - A repository full of Reflex example apps.