msvc-wine VS llvm-project

Compare msvc-wine vs llvm-project and see what are their differences.

msvc-wine

Scripts for setting up and running MSVC in Wine on Linux (by mstorsjo)

llvm-project

The LLVM Project is a collection of modular and reusable compiler and toolchain technologies. (by llvm)
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msvc-wine

Posts with mentions or reviews of msvc-wine. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-07-06.
  • How to deal with MSVC in DevOps
    9 projects | /r/cpp | 6 Jul 2023
    Okay, I am trying it, but it does not exactly work out of the box. Do you remember how you got a hand on the MSVC libraries? I use https://github.com/mstorsjo/msvc-wine to download the MSVC toolchain using python, and then I simply wget this file https://raw.githubusercontent.com/llvm/llvm-project/main/llvm/cmake/platforms/WinMsvc.cmake, and call CMake like in the example the file has as a comment in the first few lines. I installed clang-tools-15 and lld-15 using apt. Does this sound somehow correct? I set all the paths correctly and I get a CMake Error "include could not find requested file: [...] //ClangClCMakeCompileRules.cmake", the error occurs while CMake is testing the C compiler if it works.
  • Wine 8.0
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 24 Jan 2023
    That's a nice lead! - I'll try looking into that more. If you have or remember some more details - please share! Thanks!

    (One of my use cases is https://github.com/mstorsjo/msvc-wine - and invocation of `cl.exe` or `link.exe` taking 250ms at each is not going to be great (then again `cl.exe` can be made to input several .cpp/.c files, but it becomes more awkward to express that at the build level).

  • Cross compiling pybind11 module with Mingw-gcc for Windows from Linux
    4 projects | /r/cpp_questions | 29 Dec 2022
  • Visual Studio 2022 17.4 is available!
    2 projects | /r/cpp | 9 Nov 2022
    you can run the C++ compiler via wine: https://github.com/mstorsjo/msvc-wine
  • Wine 6.15 Released
    1 project | /r/linux_gaming | 14 Aug 2021
    I guess I should try installing MSVC again one of these days. Maybe it's finally possible to setup a "real" Windows cross compilation build environment without msvc-wine.

llvm-project

Posts with mentions or reviews of llvm-project. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-05-07.
  • Qt and C++ Trivial Relocation (Part 1)
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 7 May 2024
    As far as I know, libstdc++'s representation has two advantages:

    First, it simplifies the implementation of `s.data()`, because you hold a pointer that invariably points to the first character of the data. The pointer-less version needs to do a branch there. Compare libstdc++ [1] to libc++ [2].

    [1]: https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/blob/065dddc/libstdc++-v3/...

    [2]: https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/1a96179/libcxx/inc...

    Basically libstdc++ is paying an extra 8 bytes of storage, and losing trivial relocatability, in exchange for one fewer branch every time you access the string's characters. I imagine that the performance impact of that extra branch is tiny, and massively confounded in practice by unrelated factors that are clearly on libc++'s side (e.g. libc++'s SSO buffer is 7 bytes bigger, despite libc++'s string object itself being smaller). But it's there.

    The second advantage is that libstdc++ already did it that way, and to change it would be an ABI break; so now they're stuck with it. I mean, obviously that's not an "advantage" in the intuitive sense; but it's functionally equivalent to an advantage, in that it's a very strong technical answer to the question "Why doesn't libstdc++ just switch to doing it libc++'s way?"

  • Playing with DragonRuby Game Toolkit (DRGTK)
    2 projects | dev.to | 6 May 2024
    This Ruby implementation is based on mruby and LLVM and it’s commercial software but cheap.
  • Add support for Qualcomm Oryon processor
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 3 May 2024
  • Ask HN: Which books/resources to understand modern Assembler?
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 21 Apr 2024
    'Computer Architeture: A Quantitative Apporach" and/or more specific design types (mips, arm, etc) can be found under the Morgan Kaufmann Series in Computer Architeture and Design.

    "Getting Started with LLVM Core Libraries: Get to Grips With Llvm Essentials and Use the Core Libraries to Build Advanced Tools "

    "The Architecture of Open Source Applications (Volume 1) : LLVM" https://aosabook.org/en/v1/llvm.html

    "Tourist Guide to LLVM source code" : https://blog.regehr.org/archives/1453

    llvm home page : https://llvm.org/

    llvm tutorial : https://llvm.org/docs/tutorial/

    llvm reference : https://llvm.org/docs/LangRef.html

    learn by examples : C source code to 'llvm' bitcode : https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9148890/how-to-make-clan...

  • Flang-new: How to force arrays to be allocated on the heap?
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 14 Apr 2024
    See

    https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/issues/88344

    https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/flang-new-how-to-forc...

  • The LLVM Compiler Infrastructure
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 9 Apr 2024
  • Programming from Top to Bottom - Parsing
    2 projects | dev.to | 18 Mar 2024
    You can never mistake type_declaration with an identifier, otherwise the program will not work. Aside from that constraint, you are free to name them whatever you like, there is no one standard, and each parser has it own naming conventions, unless you are planning to use something like LLVM. If you are interested, you can see examples of naming in different language parsers in the AST Explorer.
  • Look ma, I wrote a new JIT compiler for PostgreSQL
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 18 Mar 2024
    > There is one way to make the LLVM JIT compiler more usable, but I fear it’s going to take years to be implemented: being able to cache and reuse compiled queries.

    Actually, it's implemented in LLVM for years :) https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/commit/a98546ebcd2a692e...

  • C++ Safety, in Context
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 12 Mar 2024
    > It's true, this was a CVE in Rust and not a CVE in C++, but only because C++ doesn't regard the issue as a problem at all. The problem definitely exists in C++, but it's not acknowledged as a problem, let alone fixed.

    Can you find a link that substantiates your claim? You're throwing out some heavy accusations here that don't seem to match reality at all.

    Case in point, this was fixed in both major C++ libraries:

    https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/commit/ebf6175464768983a2d...

    https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/commit/4f67a909902d8ab9...

    So what C++ community refused to regard this as an issue and refused to fix it? Where is your supporting evidence for your claims?

  • Clang accepts MSVC arguments and targets Windows if its binary is named clang-cl
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 2 Mar 2024
    For everyone else looking for the magic in this almost 7k lines monster, look at line 6610 [1].

    [1] https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/8ec28af8eaff5acd0d...

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