MicroPython VS thonny

Just putting my hand up to say that MicroPython is awesome (and runs on the RP2040). https://micropython.org

Gah, I just ordered one on impulse [1]. I've wanted to build out a WiFi PDA for quite some time now and I like this hardware.

I'm quite liking the idea of running tulip MicroPython [2] on it, or going back to pure MicroPython [3] and writing some drivers. Apparently something like ampy can be used to upload/download Python files [4].

Threads could be quite exciting for running multiple programs at once [5], although I have no idea what it means for two programs to fight over GPIO! It does seem as though MicroPython can only utilise a single core [6].

[1] https://www.lilygo.cc/products/t-deck?variant=43087936487605

[2] https://github.com/bwhitman/tulipcc/tree/main/tulip/tdeck

[3] https://docs.micropython.org/en/latest/esp32/tutorial/intro....

[4] https://www.digikey.co.uk/en/maker/projects/micropython-basi...

[5] https://docs.micropython.org/en/latest/library/_thread.html

[6] https://github.com/micropython/micropython/issues/8197

If you really want to engage in the travesty that is shoehorning a high level scripting language into an environment that has 512 bytes of RAM and less clock cycles than an electric toothbrush, there is micropython.

There is some work to implement a common CAN interface in micropython but it's some way off yet: https://github.com/micropython/micropython/pull/13149

https://github.com/raspberrypi/pico-sdk/ links to a PDF about connecting to the interwebs with a pi pico.

micropython/micropython//ports/rp2/boards/RPI_PICO_W: https://github.com/micropython/micropython/tree/master/ports...

raspberrypi/pico-sdk /lib: btstack, cyw43-driver, lwip, mbedtls, tinyusb https://github.com/raspberrypi/pico-sdk/tree/master/lib

raspberrypi/pico-examples//pico_w/wifi/access_point/picow_access_point.c:

https://github.com/raspberrypi/pico-examples/blob/master/pic...

There's an iperf opkg pkg, or is it just netperf (which works with fluent)?

raspberrypi/pico-examples//pico_w/wifi/iperf/picow_iperf.c:

Needed for hobby project, maintained by very small team. Haven't decided on specific microcontroller. Needed for general bit-banging, speed and code size are not priorities.

So far have considered MicroPython [0] [1] and Lua [2] [3], but open for suggestions for others.

What are experiences?

[0] https://micropython.org/

Python is also a general-purpose programming language. It's typically used on desktop / laptop computers. But Micropython is a variant that can be used to program embedded devices.

Install Thonny and run it. Then go to Tools -> Options, to configure the ESP32C3 device in Thonny to match the settings shown in the screenshot below.

The recommended way to programm MicroPython on the Raspberry Pico is to use the Thonny IDE. Accessing the Badger with reveals the following file structure:

Personally, I like to debug and step through code to see where I went wrong so I'm going to paste the code into my Thonny IDE. I like Thonny for small code challenges like this because it doesn't require setting up a whole project just to run and step through code.

Thonny is designed speciffically for that purpose https://thonny.org .

For beginners the main advantage is the easier install and maintainance, and the less intimidating/cluttered environment.

IMHO it makes some decent tradeoffs, and it is an onramp for students evolving to VSCode or PyCharm when they feel ready.

I use the serial console with a tool like Thonny to debug KMK/CircuitPython code on my device. running something like import main; main.keyboard.go() usually prints a useful error message.

If you think you need an IDE then Thonny is a good one for beginners. It does more than a simple text editor, some of which you won't use initially, but it is more to learn on top of learning python.

Usa o thonny. É muito bom e leve.

VSCode is good but I wouldn't describe it as "barebones". I recommend Thonny. It's a Python IDE specifically for beginners.

All you really need to learn python is just an installed python interpreter, the command line and a text editor like Notepad, but that's a bit too minimal perhaps. There are things called IDEs (Integrated Development Environment) that bundle up tools such as an editor, build tools and a debugger into one package. I think that a full-blown IDE is overload for a beginner with too much to learn that isn't actually python. If you want to use an IDE try something like Thonny which is aimed at beginners. When you get some experience try other IDEs and Jupyter.

Maybe a goofy question, and definitely unrelated to the post topic, but: I’m using Thonny to learn Python: can I use NiceGUI with Thonny?