golf
vis
golf | vis | |
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9.2 | 8.2 | |
about 2 months ago | 3 days ago | |
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The Unlicense | GNU General Public License v3.0 or later |
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golf
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Why Kakoune
I'd probably use Helix if it had 1:1 Kakoune keybindings. Or even Vim bindings.
Vim bindings are not the most consistent, but they are ubiquitous. Every program that offers Vim mode has very similar keymap. If modal text editor deviates from them, it better be for good reason.
Kakoune bindings are very different from Vim, but they are provably and objectively [1] better, so that's fine. They are also more consistent and there is a clear idea behind the whole design. It's written down in documentation. You might prefer Vim or Emacs, but at least you can see that changes from well known Vim scheme are not made at whim.
Helix keymap feels like it was improvised without any thought behind it. „Let's take Kakoune binds and add back visual mode cuz I feel like it.” Currently, they are designed by committee in this GitHub issue[2]. I don't see any design notes and explanations why should I spend time learning Helix keymap.
[1]: https://github.com/mawww/golf
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Is there objective data on the "most efficient" modal editor?
People claim that their new(er) modal text editor is better/faster/requires fewer keystrokes than vi/vim/neovim, but I have yet to see some clear, objective, concrete data to back these claims up (like a benchmark of the editors for the same tasks). Is there anything of this sort? I know there's this, but it's only about kakoune/vim and it seems a little biased.
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Kakoune Code Editor
Judging by https://github.com/mawww/golf kakoune is capable of completing the majority of the same editing tasks as vim in a very similar amount of keystrokes. The main advantage of multiple selections is that you can see which text you will operate on ahead of time, rather than having to first select which operation you want (delete/yank/change/etc) and then which text it will affect. I think pointing out that vim's selections aren't as capable as kakoune's is a fair response, and saying that you can accomplish similar things without selections is a bit of a deflection.
vis
- Vis: A vi-like editor based on Plan 9's structural regular expressions
- Oasis – a small, statically-linked Linux system
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Why Kakoune
> I wonder if the author has ever heard of vis[0]
Yes.
https://github.com/martanne/vis/wiki/Differences-from-Kakoun...
https://github.com/mawww/kakoune/wiki#onboarding
> which imho fulfills far better each one of those premises
Not very motivated for such a harsh critic..
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The Text Editor Sam by Rob Pike
If you want an editor that uses Sam's structural regexes with keyboard-focussed vi-style interaction, you might be interested in https://github.com/martanne/vis
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Can we write a Neo-vim Successor using rust?
Not Rust, but there's vis which aims to be a Vi(m) inspired editor with Sam's structural regular expressions.
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Met that guy one the train yesterday
I do not use vim nor a WM nor a Thinkpad, but I do use vis. It's great.
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Helix: Release 23.03 Highlights
> They either break from Vim's model (kakoune, helix) or follow Vim along with all it's flaws (Neovim, Vis).
I am sincerely curious of what flaws from Vim has Vis inherited, in your opinion.
I have the impression that the design idea of Vis is taking only the modal design of Vi (not Vim), plus the structural regular expressions of Sam, then make it as clean as possible with programmability via Lua plugins.
In fact, the state non-goals [1] seems to clearly distant itself from Vim.
[1]: https://github.com/martanne/vis#non-goals
- Helix: Post-Modern Text Editor
- Mle is a small, flexible, terminal-based text editor written in C
What are some alternatives?
nvim-config
kakoune - mawww's experiment for a better code editor
symflower-kakoune - Unit test generation for the Kakoune editor with Symflower
micro-editor - A modern and intuitive terminal-based text editor
one.kak - Atom "One" color schemes for Kakoune.
nextvi - Next version of neatvi (a small vi/ex editor) for editing bidirectional UTF-8 text
kakoune-easymotion - kakoune plugin for navigating like the easymotion vim mode
vim-visual-multi - Multiple cursors plugin for vim/neovim
kakoune-wakatime - WakaTime! For Kakoune! Yay!
mle - flexible terminal-based text editor (C)
incsearch.vim - :flashlight: Improved incremental searching for Vim
nvim-select-multi-line - Neovim plugin. select multiple lines that are not adjacent.