m3o VS vike

Sorry what I meant is I've been working on the open source Micro project for 8 years which underpins this. The chat app itself was not really something I meant as being open source but yes it's in a separate repo with the API hosting product I built called M3O.com.

https://github.com/m3o/m3o

Email: [email protected]

Spent the last 10 years mostly working with microservices and Go based startups, although I would not recommend microservices to most companies. I can save you a few million dollars if you wonder why.

I'm most passionate about improving DevEx in companies. Things like writing custom ORMs for lesser known/supported databases (see eg. https://github.com/gocassa/gocassa). Mostly worked with startups from $2M-$500M funding range, with the occasional enterprise gig.

Used to run a chicken shop as a hobby project which made me careful of accepting management positions, haha, people are hard. I would love to be a product owner, I mostly designed the https://m3o.com/ product with the CEO recently and implemented the MVP of it. It's open source stuff, check it out https://github.com/m3o

Currently working for a US startup but my contract is ending soon.

Cheers!

It's like API indexing, I like it. I started M3O (https://m3o.com) with this idea of API aggregation for absolutely everything but not specifically indexing, more so providing a uniform access layer to all things with one API token. The programmability of Nango will definitely a be a selling point. For the founders, focus on that, double down on that. The ability to program the APIs and the data retrieved is really key.

What if any is the relationship between https://m3o.com/ and https://micro.dev/ ?

Nocode poses a really interesting movement towards rapid prototyping end user facing apps but I think when it comes to functionality, there's always some need to drop into the escape hatch to make that API call or manipulate some javascript. I've been noticing more people using https://m3o.com for that especially with things like Adalo. There's 70+ APIs that can be used with one API token. Super useful. Also on the lookout for other API providers who make it easier to embed those apis.

We can potentially do this on https://m3o.com. It doesn't exist yet but would make sense as the next service we offer. Further details would be useful e.g endpoints required.

Here are some collected notes of the distinctions between SSRx, Vinxi and Vike, to share with anyone else searching the web. Since my Google search came up empty, and I had to ask around on Twitter/X and GitHub to find out.

We're working on exactly this. You can already do this with Triplit but it's challenging to make an out of the box solution because each framework passes context/data different from server to client differently. There's a cool project called [Vike](https://github.com/vikejs/vike) that generalizes this pattern across SSR'd UI frameworks

Anyone have experience with https://github.com/vikejs/vike?

have you seen https://vite-plugin-ssr.com/ ? i've only browsed their docs, but AFAICT their pitch that it's a more DIY approach to a framework, where you keep a lot of control over how things are wired together.

I agree and, as the author of vite-plugin-ssr[1], that's what I recommend to my users: go for static whenever you can.

I think it's something every web developer should be aware of. Static is indeed a lot simpler than dynamic.

I've wrote more about it over here[2] (SSG = static, SSR = dynamic).

[1]: https://vite-plugin-ssr.com

Maybe vite-plugin-ssr? It's pretty unopinionated and doesn't get in your way.

Also have a look at https://vite-plugin-ssr.com/ (author here).

VPS is slightly lower level which gives you a lot more control: integrate with your existing Node.js backend (use any backend framework you want), deploy anywhere, use any React alternative (Solid, Preact, ...) and any data fetching tool (e.g. Relay can't really be used with Next.js).

The flip side is that you've to write a little bit more glue code. Although this will be alleviated by a lot with projects such as Bati[0], Stem[1], and vike-react (see Vike Rebranding[2]).

VPS also cares a ton about details, such as hooks for full control over i18n (use any i18n strategy you want), better Base URL support (VPS supports setting a different base for your server and your CDN), automatic deploy synchronisation, domain-driven file structure, polished and helpful error messages (especially the next upcoming release), ...

Detailed comparison with Next.js: [3].

If you run into any blocker then it's quickly fixed (or at least a workaround is proposed).

It supports not only SSR and pre-rendering, but also SPA in case you don't need SSR. It's going to support RSC but doesn't yet (RSC isn't ready for production).

Because it's lower level and because it's decoupled from React everything is designed in an agnostic way and with meticulous care. In other words: vite-plugin-ssr is becoming a robust foundation. There are breaking changes coming for the v1 release but beyond that chances are that there won't be any breaking change for years in a row.

In a nutshell: vite-plugin-ssr takes care of the frontend and only the frontend. You keep control over your architecture. (Whereas frameworks tend to put themselves right in the middle of your architecture restricting you in fundemetanl ways.)

Last but not least: it's powered by Vite which means blazing fast HMR.

[0] https://batijs.github.io

[1] https://stemjs.com/

[2] https://github.com/brillout/vite-plugin-ssr/issues/736

[3] https://vite-plugin-ssr.com/nextjs-comparison

Now by default, Vite doesn't do SSR. One way to do Vite+SSR is to use vite-plugin-ssr. You can scaffold an example project that does SSR based on some dynamic data:

vite-plugin-ssr