lumo VS babashka

Compare lumo vs babashka and see what are their differences.

lumo

Fast, cross-platform, standalone ClojureScript environment (by anmonteiro)

babashka

Native, fast starting Clojure interpreter for scripting (by babashka)
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5 123
1,894 4,080
- 0.6%
0.0 9.2
over 2 years ago 6 days ago
Clojure Clojure
Eclipse Public License 1.0 Eclipse Public License 1.0
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lumo

Posts with mentions or reviews of lumo. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2022-08-03.
  • Clojure Scripting on Node.js
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 3 Aug 2022
    Is this similar to Lumo (https://github.com/anmonteiro/lumo)? I would assume Lumo has a faster start time since it boots from a V8 snapshot, but otherwise I'd assume the two projects are similar (except that, of course, lumo is EOL)
  • Clojure – Differences with Other Lisps
    12 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 2 Nov 2021
  • Clojure, but without the JVM?
    19 projects | /r/lisp | 29 Oct 2021
    Lumo: a standalone ClojureScript environment, runs on Node.js. Doesn't seem to have its own reader conditional, uses :cljs.
  • Racket v8.0 is out!
    4 projects | /r/programming | 15 Feb 2021
    Lumo and Planck (standalone Clojurescript environments, based on Node and on JavaScriptCore with some additional functionality to make it suitable for scripting, respectively), and Clojerl (Clojure implemented on BEAM). Startup times are comparable to e.g. Racket.

babashka

Posts with mentions or reviews of babashka. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-10-02.
  • Tour of Hell
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 2 Oct 2024
    Good reminders; just not readily seeing Babashka (Clojure through GraalVM) so mentioning here for sake of sexp closure.

    https://github.com/babashka/babashka

  • Clojure 1.12.0 is now available
    12 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 5 Sep 2024
    > Does any of this release help with startup time?

    Clojure (and indirectly Java) was never created with "fast startup speed" in mind. This is why things like `add-lib` (that was added in this release) is so useful, because you start your developing session once, and it stays open until you either have to restart your computer or done developing the project.

    Then the typical deployment target is either "Push this .jar to a server somehow, start the process and let it run" or "User double-clicks executable, waits for application to be ready".

    If you really need fast startup, you can go through something like https://github.com/ionutbalosin/faster-jvm-start-up-techniqu...

    Or if you're fine with slightly worse runtime performance, give https://github.com/babashka/babashka a try

    Finally, if you're OK with JavaScript you could give ClojureScript a try, has fast startup (as fast as NodeJS I suppose) but yeah, it's JavaScript.

    But overall, Clojure/Java isn't optimized for the use-case of "Start process for each request, stop process once processed" so I'm guessing you'll face an uphill battle there.

  • CIEL Is an Extended Lisp
    19 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 30 Aug 2024
    You should meet this nice https://github.com/babashka/babashka !

    It is Clojure written in Clojure compiled to native via GraalVM.

  • Makefiles for Web Work (2022)
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 24 Aug 2024
    A bit late to the party but have you heard of or tried babashka? It's kinda the nuclear option but it might fit your use case.

    https://babashka.org/

  • Clojure Desktop UI Framework
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 24 Aug 2024
  • Common Lisp for Shell Scripting
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 23 May 2024
  • Try Clojure
    37 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 22 May 2024
    Check out Babashka. It's a single binary that runs Clojure without a JVM. It also starts up really fast and uses a lot less memory: https://github.com/babashka/babashka

    That said, there are reasons you may want to use the JVM Clojure later. It might be interesting to read the replies to another poster with similar concerns about the JVM: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40445415

  • A Tour of Lisps
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 29 Jan 2024
    It also gives you access to Babashka if you want Clojure for other use-cases where start-up time is an issue

    https://babashka.org/

  • Babashka: Fast native Clojure scripting runtime
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 24 Jan 2024
  • What's the value proposition of meta circular interpreters?
    2 projects | /r/prolog | 7 Dec 2023
    I've tried researching this myself and can't find too much. There's this project metaes which is an mci for JS, and there's the SCI module of the Clojure babashka project, but that's about it. I also saw Triska's video on mci but it was pretty theoretical.

What are some alternatives?

When comparing lumo and babashka you can also consider the following projects:

etaoin - Pure Clojure Webdriver protocol implementation

janet - A dynamic language and bytecode vm

joker - Small Clojure interpreter, linter and formatter.

planck - Stand-alone ClojureScript REPL

nbb - Scripting in Clojure on Node.js using SCI

awesome-clojure-likes - Curated list of Clojure-like programming languages.

malli - High-performance data-driven data specification library for Clojure/Script.

Fennel - Lua Lisp Language

clojure-lsp - Clojure & ClojureScript Language Server (LSP) implementation

racket - The Racket repository

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