live_svelte VS leptos

Bun is an executable as far as I understand. Would it be possible to call Bun code directly from another language with bindings?

For example Erlang (and Elixir) has Native Implemented Functions[0] (NIF) where you can call native code directly from Erlang. Elixir has the zigler[1] project where you can call Zig code directly from Elixir.

Maybe you can see where I'm going with this, but it would be super cool to have the ability to call Javascript code from within Elixir. Especially when it comes to code that should be called on the server and client. I'm the developer of LiveSvelte[2] where we use Node to do SSR but it's quite slow atm, and would be very cool to use Bun for something like this.

In any case Bun is super impressive, keep it up!

[0] https://www.erlang.org/doc/tutorial/nif.html

[1] https://github.com/E-xyza/zigler

[2] https://github.com/woutdp/live_svelte

Remote: Yes (Remote only)

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Technologies: Elixir, Phoenix, Svelte, Django, Python

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GitHub: https://github.com/woutdp

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Current project: https://github.com/woutdp/live_svelte

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Full-Stack Web Developer. Looking for Elixir/Phoenix work. 7+ years of professional experience working with various web technologies, mainly Python, Django and Svelte(Kit). Would be open for working with Python/Django/Svelte(Kit). Also open to work on frontend and/or backend only projects. Website refresh/new website projects is also something I'm interested in.

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Location: Vancouver Canada, Remote

Remote: Yes (Remote only)

Willing to relocate: no

Technologies: Elixir, Phoenix, Svelte, Django, Python

Résumé/CV: Upon request

Email: [email protected]

GitHub: https://github.com/woutdp

Website: https://wout.space/

Current project: https://github.com/woutdp/live_svelte

Past project: https://geoquest.gg/ (made in SvelteKit)

Full-Stack Web Developer. Looking for Elixir/Phoenix work. +7 years of professional experience working with various web technologies, mainly Python, Django and Svelte(Kit). Would be open for working with Python/Django/Svelte(Kit). Also open to work on frontend and/or backend only projects. Website refresh/new website projects are also something I'm interested in.

Hi I'm a Full-Stack Web Developer. Looking for Elixir/Phoenix work. +7 years of experience working with various web technologies, mainly Python, Django and Svelte(Kit). Would be open for working with Python/Django/Svelte(Kit). Also open to just work on frontend and/or backend only projects. Website refresh/new website projects are also something I'm interested in.

Availability: +- 20 hours per week or less, hourly or contract work

- Current project: https://github.com/woutdp/live_svelte

- Past project: https://geoquest.gg/ (made in SvelteKit)

- GitHub: https://github.com/woutdp

- Website: https://wout.space/

- Contact: [email protected]

For very high degree of interactivity I've been working on LiveSvelte which might solve that issue for you. Your other points still stand though.

https://github.com/woutdp/live_svelte

I've been working on LiveSvelte[0] which might answer this in the LiveView example. It integrates LiveView with Svelte and has SSR support by calling Node from within Elixir, I wouldn't call it unholy, it's quite nice :)

Routing is fully handled by Phoenix, and you can get quite fast page transitions with Live Navigation Events. It's just that whenever you need complex frontend state you can offload it to Svelte, while still maintaining that backend interopability, in this case with E2E reactivity.

What's also really nice is that LiveView and Svelte are both very declarative in the way they handle the 'view' layer. And so they map really well onto eachother.

I also wrote a blogpost[1] on the topic.

[0] https://github.com/woutdp/live_svelte

[1] https://wout.space/notes/live-svelte

Lots of new frontend frameworks have been built on top of Rust, including Leptos, which happens to be one of the most popular ones. In this guide, we'll highlight why and how to migrate your JavaScript frontend to use the Leptos Rust frontend framework.

I don't know why OP felt moved to write this weird guide, https://leptos.dev is incredible!

https://github.com/leptos-rs/leptos/blob/main/flake.nix

You want a package? Add it to buildInputs.

You want to search a package: https://search.nixos.org/packages (or use the cli)

you want to test a package before adding it? nix-shell -p or nix shell for example.

Heck, even if you want it more easy, you could write a tool in less than 100 lines that adds packages names to .json/.yaml/.toml, which allows you to parse it using the nix language and a simple cli written with bash functions to add/remove packages if you wanted.

That's why it is hard for me to understand this project as a product, it seems like a wrapper to the most basic things :\

We use the fantastic Leptos framework for building the frontend. Besides that, we use the leptos-use utilities for connecting to the WebSocket server, serde for serialization, and rand for generating random numbers.

I'd use https://leptos.dev because you can use a fully typed language (Rust) that is super fast in the backend and also in the frontend (see https://krausest.github.io/js-framework-benchmark/2024/table...)

For the web-side, if you'd like to use Rust end-to-end we've had the best experience with Leptos: https://leptos.dev/

I'd suggest https://leptos.dev/ is worth a look. I haven't used it yet, but plan to soon.

I think a lot of us reach for Jinja-style templates so it feels a little more like we're writing bare HTML. But they're of course still just templates, and they need a build step before they become valid HTML.

So it's true, if you're willing to use a DSL embedded in your server language (like JSX), then you'll have the full language tooling available to you. And this probably isn't giving up much over language-specific templates.

A JSX-equivalent for the Rust server-side rendering world would probably be maud [1] or leptops [2].

[1] https://github.com/lambda-fairy/maud

[2] https://github.com/leptos-rs/leptos

I wanted to deploy the app serverlessly, opting for Deno Deploy hosting. The JS fetch example and the leptos-deno examples were handy to get me going.