libxfce4ui-nocsd VS gtk3-nocsd

Thanks. It will be interesting between this project and libxfce4-ui-nocsd go, in the future. I'm just not terribly interested into turning my desktop into a FrankenXfce that I have to personally spoon-feed.

looking at the installing page for libxfce4ui-nocsd, it seems that there is no other choice but to do a manual installation. you could try using a ppa on debian but i wouldn't reccomend it

I love Linux and I've used it for nearly 15 years now but the sad truth is the author cited by this article jwz isn't wrong. The problem is essentially that the DE devs don't care about their users, they just do whatever the hell they feel like c.f. GNOME 3. A more recent example is XFCE adopting CSD, it completely breaks the consistency of the environment, and users don't like it, but the devs don't care.. And that's XFCE! Supposedly one of the more conservative DEs!

You can use this. https://github.com/Xfce-Classic/libxfce4ui-nocsd

You can turn CSD on for all gtk3 apps by adding export GTK_CSD=1 to ~/.profile and you can turn off CSD in Xfce apps with using libxfce4ui-nocsd. https://github.com/Xfce-Classic/libxfce4ui-nocsd

You can patch the CSDs out with stuff like gtk3-mushrooms/gtk3-classic and libxfce4ui-nocsd, but those are band-aids on a gaping wound. In order to kill it off, we need to convince the devs that it's a bad idea.

More of Xfce's apps will be moving to CSD, like the upcoming task manager. One way around it is nocsd, which is a fork that was made during the 4.16 development cycle to leave CSD off. https://github.com/Xfce-Classic/libxfce4ui-nocsd

After gtk3, window decorations are not a thing in gtk apps. The gtk theme is used to draw the elements. (Read client side decorations for better idea). You have to depend on 3rd party tools to restore window decorations, like this one. Don't know how well it works now, or even works with gtk 4, since i tried it way back and it has not seen any updates for years.

It's incredibly hacky, doesn't work on GTK4 apps, and only functions when using X11, but if those aren't deal breakers for you, than gtk3-nocsd might be what you're looking for. It forces GTK3 applications to use the same system side decorations that other applications do.

OK then. I think you want the more typical version of things. Stop Appearance and the like looking that way. The best option currently is this. I don't know what distro you're using so I can't say how you would install it exactly, sure you can figure that out.

You can try asking a question on the developer's site - https://github.com/PCMan/gtk3-nocsd/issues

I managed to remove them with this script: https://github.com/PCMan/gtk3-nocsd

gtk3-nocsd can help with this

It's not a Gtk style. It's a plugin/hack you need to install externally. https://github.com/PCMan/gtk3-nocsd