libsql VS sqlitebrowser

> PS: I've got nothing against Turso, or libSQL. In fact I spent the last year perusing their virtual WAL API. The problem is that I found no documentation, nor any useful open source implementations of it. If there any I'd be very interested. So, thus far, I also don't have anything that drives towards libSQL.

Hey, this is v and I am an engineer at Turso. We do have some documentation and an example implementation of Virtual WAL

docs: https://github.com/tursodatabase/libsql/blob/ef44612/libsql-...

example: https://github.com/tursodatabase/libsql/blob/ef44612/libsql-...

for an open source implementation, you may check how Bottomless works. Bottomless is another project which does back up like litestream and it internally implements a Virtual WAL.

Bottomless - https://github.com/tursodatabase/libsql/tree/main/bottomless

I am sure we can improve our docs, make it more discover-able and easy to find. I am open to feedback and suggestions!

Astro DB is powered by LibSQL, an open source fork of SQLite that was created by Turso. You can use Astro DB's drop-in database to build features like blogs, comment functionality, forums, feedback systems, and user authentication.

sqlite already had an active community fork started by Turso called libsql. They are fixing longstanding API gaps the upstream team isn’t interested in supporting. For example, they added a native write-ahead log API, so you can plug directly into the WAL for streaming replication. This is possible-ish with upstream sqlite + LiteFs but litefs has to implement a whole FUSE file system and can’t run on Mac for that reason.

It’s more risky to run libsql because new features mean new bugs, but it seems worth it to me.

Libsql: https://github.com/tursodatabase/libsql

A bit of a tangent but for those who’d like to use SQLite for a backend, running it as a separate daemon could be an interesting choice, which would also remove there need of Cgo for the build and maybe make things like separate background job processes easier to accomplish. See [1], [2].

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1: https://github.com/tursodatabase/libsql/tree/main/libsql-ser...

2: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38602175

https://www.sqlite.org/copyright.html

To summarize, instead of using one of the OSS licenses, the copyright holders simply declare the source to be in the public domain. In order to preserve that status they don't accept patches unless you submit some signed document that you agree with that.

To make things more complicated, they also use their a relatively niche version management system instead of git. Which would complicate making contributions (if they accepted them).

There's a popular fork that fixes all of these issues: https://github.com/libsql/libsql It is MIT licensed, on Github, and open for contributions.

Kind of a weird legal situation for a popular project like this that so many people depend on to have. Not judging; but it is odd. Seems like a lot of wasted efforts between users, would be contributors, and the people that forked this thing to address all that.

You could try making feature requests for https://github.com/libsql/libsql , which is a community fork of SQLite that aims to speed-up the development of long-wanted features.

For a comprehensive view, check out the issues list for libSQL core and sqld. But mostly, I want libSQL to be a home for all builders who believe there is room to take a lean, mean, and SQLite-compatible embedded database to new heights. I’d love to see your contribution!

We have a spread of different GitHub Actions based workflows that do stuff whenever a PR is proposed or merged:

https://github.com/sqlitebrowser/sqlitebrowser/tree/master/....

Most of those are oriented around building packages for various OS's (Linux, macOS, Windows) so people can try the latest code.

While there are some tests, they're more like extremely basic sanity tests and don't rely on Docker.

Those tests rely on whichever version of SQLite was downloaded and compiled into the GUI (as per above code snippet).

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That being said, that's for the client side GUI application. There's a server side of things too (https://github.com/sqlitebrowser/dbhub.io -> dbhub.io) that does use docker for it's automated tests:

https://github.com/sqlitebrowser/dbhub.io/tree/master/.githu...

Those are integration tests though (eg "make sure we didn't bust communication with our cli", "make sure our go library still works 100% with the server"), and a reasonably decent set of End to End (E2E) tests of the web interface using Cypress.

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Does that help? :)

Do you know about SQLite DB Browser ? It's a multi platform application that would perfectly fit your use case :).

https://sqlitebrowser.org/

Someone gave you a sqlite database. You probably started to think to install a program like sqlitebrowser, but only to view and read the data. Don't bother, you can use this extension instead.

Try https://sqlitebrowser.org/ it’s great for local use and training purposes

You can see how the db file looks for the app using https://sqlitebrowser.org/

If you want to fiddle with SQLite and don't need all the power herein, I recommend DB Browser for SQLite.

https://sqlitebrowser.org/

Hello y'all. This is my first post here. I'm learning SQL with the Northwind database. When I run a "big" query, like "SELECT * FROM Customers" the application crashes. I noticed this only happens when I run a general query, for example, if I run something more specific (and, by the hand "smaller") it doesn't happen. So, I thought it could be related to the size of the query. But I'm a total beginner so idk. It doesn't happen every time I try to use it, but still, this is frustrating. If there's no solution, what other SQL application can I use to keep learning? I found something on GitHub but this is for an older macOS version.